The full list price of an A330 is publicly known and can be found online quite easily, whereas the $85M price is the one NW said to have paid for their A330s a few years ago (although it remained unclear if that included the engines or not).... nothing confidential about that at all really.NCB wrote:It's confidential info but since no one knows who I work for, I can tell you that list price is in the $200 million arena for A333, but for an order of 15 or so you probably don't pay more than $85 million a piece.
Second hand you could go down all the way to around $20 million for the early MSN's (but here the value depends more on the engines rather than the airframe), but lease rates don't decrease proportionally, they tend to stay higher.
By renewing its fleet, MH said it expects to save almost $90M (€60M) annually as from 2016, although obviously not all of that comes from lower direct operating costs of the newer planes, as MH will now have (some) of these birds in ownership, rather than lease them and the lower maintenance costs also need to be factored in.
Currently MH have 11 early built A330s on lease, with the first one leaving next year already...
For those interested in the 'confidential' list prices, here's an overview from Boeing's public site:
and the same from Airbus
http://www.airbus.com/store/mm_reposito ... es2008.pdf