BRU summer 2010: latest news, routes, airlines

Join this forum to discuss the latest news that happened in the world of commercial aviation.

Moderator: Latest news team

Post Reply
LX-LGX
Posts: 2004
Joined: 20 Jan 2004, 00:00
Location: ANR

Re: BRU summer 2010: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by LX-LGX »

Indeed, the press release doesn't mention anything about a codesharing with Brussels Airlines.

But it is not a press release from Hainan Airlines: it is a press release from Brussels Airport.

It's up to Hainan Airlines - and eventually Brussels Airlines - to advise more details about this.

User avatar
sn26567
Posts: 40839
Joined: 13 Feb 2003, 00:00
Location: Rosières/Rozieren, Belgium
Contact:

Re: BRU summer 2010: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by sn26567 »

LX-LGX wrote:Indeed, the press release doesn't mention anything about a codesharing with Brussels Airlines.

But it is not a press release from Hainan Airlines: it is a press release from Brussels Airport.
Then it is even more shameful that Brussels Airport does not care more about it's home carrier and most important customer.
André
ex Sabena #26567

User avatar
Atlantis
Posts: 4962
Joined: 12 Apr 2005, 00:00

Re: BRU summer 2010: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by Atlantis »

The press release is still yet not published officially by Brussels Airport. So please wait with those accusations.

Maybe we can ask member Avion1 where he get that press release.

BTW on the site of Hainan itselfs we can see that they are going to start with daily flights to BRU as from 28 MARCH 2010


PS: in general, a good advice. When you post something new, check several sources and think twice. Its not important if you are the first one or number 10. THE most important message is to bring quality.
We can see lately a lot of mistakes on this forum and the funiest thing is that online newspapers copy that info, freelance.

LX-LGX
Posts: 2004
Joined: 20 Jan 2004, 00:00
Location: ANR

Re: BRU summer 2010: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by LX-LGX »

Atlantis wrote:The press release is still yet not published officially by Brussels Airport. So please wait with those accusations. Maybe we can ask member Avion1 where he get that press release.[/b]

Could be this one:
http://www.airtransportnews.aero/articl ... =&id=20569

sn26567 wrote:
LX-LGX wrote:Indeed, the press release doesn't mention anything about a codesharing with Brussels Airlines. But it is not a press release from Hainan Airlines: it is a press release from Brussels Airport.
Then it is even more shameful that Brussels Airport does not care more about it's home carrier and most important customer.
Codesharing is more a sales and marketing issue for me, thus more a job for the airlines then for an airport administrator. Same applies for the BRU-LHR discussion: we only mention it here as a problem for Brussels Airlines, but there are lots of other carriers involved because BD is an excellent feeder. Best examples are the morning flights LHR-BRU and the afternoon flights BRU-LHR: ex. BD150 is also Air Canada, All Nippon, Air New Zealand, Qatar, South African, Sri Lankan, Virgin Atlantic.

Boeing767copilot
Posts: 1386
Joined: 13 May 2004, 00:00

Re: BRU summer 2010: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by Boeing767copilot »

And what's this Atlantis?

:o

In French
Communiqué de presse


Hainan Airlines : vol journalier Bruxelles-Beijing à partir de la saison d’été

Brussels Airport, 27 novembre 2009 - Hainan Airlines, la principale compagnie aérienne privée de la Chine, a annoncé l’ouverture d’une liaison journalière entre Brussels Airport et Beijing à partir du 27 avril 2010.

Hainan Airlines a commencé des opérations entre Beijing et Bruxelles en 2006 et assure actuellement trois vols hebdomadaires en saison d’hiver et quatre vols hebdomadaires en saison d’été. Depuis le lancement de ce service, les vols directs entre Bruxelles et la Chine sont devenus très populaires tant auprès des voyageurs de loisirs que d’affaires.

Les vols seront opérés par des appareils Airbus 330-200, offrant 36 sièges-lits inclinables à 180° en classe affaires et 177 sièges en classe economy. Tous les sièges sont équipés d’un système de divertissement en vol à la pointe de la technologie avec des écrans tactiles personnels.

Tous les vols offriront des communications aisées à Shanghai, Hong Kong, Taipei et un grand nombre de destinations en Chine et vers le nord-est de l’Asie. Hainan Airlines Group opère une flotte de 210 avions.

“L’introduction d’un vol direct quotidien réjouira les voyageurs d’affaires”, explique Jos Stroobants, Director Aviation Development de Brussels Airport. “Cette annonce confirme l’intensification des relations d’affaires entre nos pays, ainsi que la popularité croissante des nombreuses merveilles de la Chine auprès des voyageurs de loisirs et l’attraction de notre propre héritage culturel pour le nombre croissant de visiteurs chinois. ”

Malgré la situation économique actuelle, plusieurs nouvelles initiatives long-courrier ont été annoncées les semaines passées. A partir de l’été 2010 Icelandair commencera des vols entre Bruxelles et Reykjavik, Air Canada opérera des vols quotidiens vers Montréal et United Airlines ouvrira une liaison quotidienne directe vers Chicago.




A propos de Brussels Airport
Avec plus de 18,5 millions de passagers et plus de 661.100 tonnes de fret par an, Brussels Airport figure parmi les aéroports les plus importants en Europe. Brussels Airport relie la capitale européenne à 200 destinations directes, opérées par 100 compagnies aériennes: 80 compagnies passagers et 20 compagnies tout cargo.
Brussels Airport a pour objectif d’être l’aéroport le plus performant, le plus accueillant et le plus européen en Europe. Brussels Airport répond aux besoins spécifiques des voyageurs d'affaires mais offre également le plus grand choix de destinations à bas prix au départ de la Belgique.
L’aéroport est géré par The Brussels Airport Company. Les actionnaires sont l’Etat belge (25%) et un consortium d’investisseurs privés (75%).
Plus de 260 sociétés sont actives à Brussels Airport ce qui génère près de 21.000 emplois.Persbericht

In Dutch

Hainan Airlines : dagelijks Brussel-Beijing vanaf het zomerseizoen


Brussels Airport, 27 november 2009 – Hainan Airlines, de grootste privé luchtvaartmaatschappij in China, kondigt dagelijkse vluchten aan tussen Brussels Airport en Beijing vanaf 27 april 2010.

Hainan Airlines startte in 2006 met vluchten tussen Brussel en Beijing, en biedt momenteel drie wekelijkse vluchten tijdens het winterseizoen en vier tijdens de zomer. Sedert de opstart van deze rechtstreekse route tussen Brussel en China kent ze een toenemende belangstelling van zowel vakantiereizigers als zakenpassagiers.

De vluchten zullen uitgevoerd worden met Airbus 330-200 toestellen, met 36 180° flat bed stoelen in business class en 177 plaatsen in economy. Alle stoelen zijn uitgerust met een geavanceerd inflight-intertainmant system met persoonlijke touch-screens.

De vluchten bieden een gemakkelijke aansluitende verbinding naar Shanghai, Hong Kong, Taipei en een groot aantal andere bestemmingen in China en Noord Oost Azië. Hainan Airlines heeft een vloot van 210 toestellen.

“Het aanbod van een dagelijkse rechtstreekse is zeer welkom voor zakenpassagiers”, onderstreept Jos Stroobants, Director Aviation Development bij Brussels Airport. “Deze aankondiging gaat gepaard met de toenemende zakenrelatie tussen onze beide landen, en de toenemende belangstelling van Europese vakantiereizigers voor deze indrukwekkende bestemming, maar er is ook een snel toenemende belangstelling vanwege Chinese bezoekers voor ons eigen cultureel erfgoed”.

Ondanks het moeilijke economische klimaat in de luchtvaart konden recent verscheidene nieuwe langeafstandsverbindingen aangekondigd worden. Vanaf het komende zomerseizoen start Icelandair rechtstreekse vluchten naar Reykjavik. Air Canada start vanaf de zomer met rechtstreekse dagelijkse vluchten naar Montreal en United Airlines voegt dagelijkse vluchten naar Chicago toe aan haar aanbod vanaf Brussels Airport.











Over Brussels Airport
Brussels Airport is met ruim 18,5 miljoen passagiers en 661.100 ton cargo per jaar één van de belangrijkste luchthavens van Europa. Brussels Airport verbindt de Europese hoofdstad met 200 rechtstreekse bestemmingen, die uitgevoerd worden door 100 luchtvaartmaatschappijen: 80 passagiersairlines en 20 volvrachtmaatschappijen.
Brussels Airport stelt zich tot doel de meest efficiënte, meest hartelijke en meest Europese luchthaven van Europa te zijn, komt tegemoet aan de specifieke noden van zakenreizigers, maar biedt ook de grootste keuze aan lage tarievenbestemmingen vanuit België.
De luchthaven wordt uitgebaat door The Brussels Airport Company. De aandeelhouders zijn de Belgische Staat (25 procent) en een consortium van mrivé investeerders (75 procent). Op Brussels Airport zijn meer dan 260 bedrijven en diensten actief, goed voor bijna 21.000 jobs.

User avatar
Atlantis
Posts: 4962
Joined: 12 Apr 2005, 00:00

Re: BRU summer 2010: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by Atlantis »

Could be that we will see it tomorrow on the Brussels Airport site but till today no press release visible in NL/FR/EN.

And still no answer on the fact that Hainan and in meanwhile the other booking engines - contract - are selling this daily flight as from 28 March 2010. Besides what could be a reason to start daily flights a month after the summer season started? I don't find any, do you?

User avatar
Established02
Posts: 1625
Joined: 16 Oct 2002, 00:00

Re: BRU summer 2010: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by Established02 »

Atlantis wrote:Besides what could be a reason to start daily flights a month after the summer season started? I don't find any, do you?
The same question applies to AC. Why are they starting up their YUL-BRU only as from JUN10, when a third of the summer season has already past?

One reason could be aircraft availability (due late delivery, maintenance, cutbacks on other routes...).

Bralo20
Posts: 1448
Joined: 12 Aug 2008, 13:48

Re: BRU summer 2010: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by Bralo20 »

Bralo20 on Nov., 17 wrote:BRU-PEK on HU is indeed loaded as a daily flight starting on March 28, the beginning of Summer'10 ;)

Not certain if this remains after the summerseason.
BRU-PEK was allready loaded in the systems for at least 2 weeks ;)

sdbelgium
Posts: 5630
Joined: 10 Aug 2008, 13:32
Location: Gent
Contact:

Re: BRU summer 2010: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by sdbelgium »

Blue1 will restart HEL-BRU eff 28MAR10 (11 weekly flights).

Code: Select all

KF801  HEL 0650  BRU 0840  AR8  x67
KF802  BRU 0950  HEL 1330  AR8  x67

KF803  HEL 1705  BRU 1855  AR8  x6
KF804  BRU 2000  HEL 2340  AR8  x6
Avro RJ85 with 84 seats; flight time 02h50.

Source: http://www.flightlevel.be/420/blue-1-br ... sinki.html

sdbelgium
Posts: 5630
Joined: 10 Aug 2008, 13:32
Location: Gent
Contact:

Re: BRU summer 2010: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by sdbelgium »

Hainan Airlines has requested slots for 5 weekly PVG-BRU flights with Airbus A330-200, starting March 2010. They also plan to serve VIE from PVG daily, as from April 2010.

User avatar
BrightCedars
Posts: 827
Joined: 01 Sep 2005, 00:00
Location: Brussels, Belgium

Re: BRU summer 2010: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by BrightCedars »

Not to be nitpicking but that French version clearly is the result of a non-French speaking native and worse, does not seem to have at least been proof read by a native speaker.

Other than that it's all good news to me. I'm quite optimistic SN will soon announce that they are adding HEL to their network, putting their code on Blue1's well-timed flights.

User avatar
tolipanebas
Posts: 2442
Joined: 12 May 2004, 00:00

Post by tolipanebas »

sdbelgium wrote:Blue1 will restart HEL-BRU eff 28MAR10 (11 weekly flights).
sn26567 wrote:Then SN should definitely try to codeshare with them, because since the end of the codeshare with AY the latter has taken most of the traffic between BRU and HEL. Who in his right mind would want to take the LH-SN codeshared flights via FRA with the loss of time that it involves, when there are direct flights with another airline?
As expected, SN will codeshare with STAR alliance partner Blue1 on all their flights between BRU and HEL.

SN will also offer onward connections to Kuopio, Vaasa en Oulu in Finland.

In return, Blue1 will add its KF-code to SN flights to Barcelona, Bilbao, Birmingham, Bologna, Genève, Lyon, Malaga, Marseille, Nice and Toulouse in a similar way as AY did until recently (and with much success: the minihub of AY in BRU saw good numbers of pax connecting on the SN flights)


airtrotter
Posts: 149
Joined: 25 Apr 2009, 20:12

Re: BRU summer 2010: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by airtrotter »

according to rumours, Hainan Airlines will start Shanghai - Brussel for the coming summer. From March 2010 at 5 flights/week with A330

http://www.flightlevel.be/421/hainan-ai ... ussel.html
(only in Dutch)

apparently, HU asked CAAC permission to re-start this route (previously operated till 2006).

grz

VEX802
Posts: 165
Joined: 13 Sep 2005, 00:00
Location: Fort Myers

Re: BRU summer 2010: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by VEX802 »

(only in Dutch)

Hainan Airlines start wellicht route Shanghai-Brussel

Volgens Flightglobal maakte de Civil Aviation Administration of China (CAAC) vandaag bekend dat Hainan Airlines wellicht zal beginnen met een route naar Brussel vanaf Shanghai. Ook de stad Wenen zou een verbinding krijgen met de Chinese stad. De maatschappij zou toestemming hebben gevraagd aan de CAAC om vanaf maart 2010 vluchten te mogen uitvoeren naar Brussel. De route zou vijf dagen per week gevlogen worden door A330's. De route naar Wenen zou pas starten in april 2010, maar wordt wel dagelijks.

Hainan vloog eerder al op de route Brussel-Shanghai met een B767-300, maar schrapte onverwachts in augustus 2006 deze route. Er werd toen gezegd dat problemen met verkeersrechten en luchthaventerminals aan de basis lagen van de onverwachte beslissing. Nu zou deze route dus terugkomen.

Dit nieuws komt amper een week nadat Hainan bekend maakte dat ze vanaf volgend zomerseizoen dagelijks Beijing-Brussel zal vliegen. Hainan Airlines startte in 2006 met vluchten tussen Brussel en Beijing, en biedt momenteel drie wekelijkse vluchten tijdens het winterseizoen en vier tijdens de zomer.

Het nieuws over de nieuwe routes vanaf Shanghai is nog wel niet officieel bekend gemaakt door Hainan zelf.

Skytrax maakte gisteren ook bekend dat Hainan Airlines door de reizigers verkozen is tot viersterrenairline. Daarmee wordt zij de eerste maatschappij uit het Chinese vasteland dat vier sterren kan binnenhalen. Cathay Pacific uit Hong Kong haalde een 5 sterren quotering.

sdbelgium
Posts: 5630
Joined: 10 Aug 2008, 13:32
Location: Gent
Contact:

Re: BRU summer 2010: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by sdbelgium »

airtrotter wrote:according to rumours, Hainan Airlines will start Shanghai - Brussel for the coming summer. From March 2010 at 5 flights/week with A330

http://www.flightlevel.be/421/hainan-ai ... ussel.html
(only in Dutch)

apparently, HU asked CAAC permission to re-start this route (previously operated till 2006).

grz
If you scroll up, you will see I posted this already this morning.

VEX802
Posts: 165
Joined: 13 Sep 2005, 00:00
Location: Fort Myers

Re: BRU summer 2010: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by VEX802 »

sdbelgium wrote:
airtrotter wrote:according to rumours, Hainan Airlines will start Shanghai - Brussel for the coming summer. From March 2010 at 5 flights/week with A330

http://www.flightlevel.be/421/hainan-ai ... ussel.html
(only in Dutch)

apparently, HU asked CAAC permission to re-start this route (previously operated till 2006).

grz
If you scroll up, you will see I posted this already this morning.
Yes I know,

But this is a little bit more elaborated (despite of the fact that it is only in Dutch).
Why making such a problem of it? There are more examples (in this specific thread and on this forum) of restating some messages.

VEX802

User avatar
sn26567
Posts: 40839
Joined: 13 Feb 2003, 00:00
Location: Rosières/Rozieren, Belgium
Contact:

Re: BRU summer 2010: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by sn26567 »

VEX802 wrote:Why making such a problem of it? There are more examples (in this specific thread and on this forum) of restating some messages.
It's not a big problem indeed, but we should try as much as possible to avoid repeating informations that have already been posted earlier in a thread. Not only in this thread but in all threads.

Another recommendation: when information is issued in another language than English, a short English summary would be welcome for the benefit of who do not understand the original langauge.

Thanks to all for your cooperation on these matters.
André
ex Sabena #26567

User avatar
Atlantis
Posts: 4962
Joined: 12 Apr 2005, 00:00

Re: BRU summer 2010: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by Atlantis »

sdbelgium wrote:Hainan Airlines has requested slots for 5 weekly PVG-BRU flights with Airbus A330-200, starting March 2010. They also plan to serve VIE from PVG daily, as from April 2010.
Very good news and no competition on this route. Could be a succes. This will eliminate Air China on this route. But maybe they have more chance on the "new future route" between Bangkok and Brussels -> but this is off topic.

And see my post of 17 November: never say never ;)

airtrotter
Posts: 149
Joined: 25 Apr 2009, 20:12

Re: BRU summer 2010: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by airtrotter »

sdbelgium wrote:
airtrotter wrote:according to rumours, Hainan Airlines will start Shanghai - Brussel for the coming summer. From March 2010 at 5 flights/week with A330

http://www.flightlevel.be/421/hainan-ai ... ussel.html
(only in Dutch)

apparently, HU asked CAAC permission to re-start this route (previously operated till 2006).

grz
If you scroll up, you will see I posted this already this morning.
true, my bad. I must have missed it somehow.
grz

Post Reply