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John Leahy is claiming there will be a further 30 A380's sold before years end to Asian carriers.

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30 to a single carrier?

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30 to a single carrier?

Ok that narrows down the options to:

- JL: very unlikely, they have a very large fleet of B747s and they could do with 30 A380s but they didn't seem to be going down the Airbus path nor the VLA path, however oneworld is bound to have a nice A380 fleet with BA & QF
- NH: would be very surprising, 30 might be a bit too much for them
- CX: would be surprising but they will have a large fleet of B747s to replace and they need to keep up with the competition of EK & SQ
- AI, CA: would be very surprising as 30 might be a bit too much for them
- EK: anything can happen, even the launch of the A380-900!

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where does it say it's for a 'single' carrier though?

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Yep, its carriers plural!

Air India and All Nippon are suggested with Cathay sometime next year.

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My take is Cathay, and probably a Chinese airline.

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Pearshaped!

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Sorry, I failed to notice the carriers. :oops:

I guess this opens wide the scope of possibilities...

Still I think a Japanese carrier would be a breakthrough and probably a final nail in the B748I's coffin. Whether JAL or ANA, I wouldn't know.

Then yes, maybe some Indian carrier such as Air India or Jet Airways. Isn't Kingfisher the only one to have ordered yet?

Cathay Pacific remains an option, depending on their policy with regard to point-to-point vs. hub-and-spoke. A few units would come handy already for LHR nonetheless.

Maybe Asiana or Oasis but I doubt. The Gulf can always come up with a surprise!

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It wouldn't surprise me if the Carrier is Japanese. But this is indeed good news for the A380. :D

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EXCLUSIVE: US considers Airbus A380 as Air Force One and potentially a C-5 replacement ..... :lol:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/20 ... ement.html

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Definitely not this year!

I think the BAe Hawk was the last European to fly US colours, but seriously I cannot imagine A380 as Air Force 1.

What can they use if the 748 fails to materialize I wonder?

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30 orders before the end of the year is rather unlikely unless its already been confirmed and pending announement. Air India is very likely to order for 747 replacement but only around 15-20. JAL again, very unlikely because of their history with Boeing but can't be ruled out. They definitely need very large airplanes for high density domestic as well as international routes. The slots constraint at both NRT and HND would make A380 a wise choice.
Apart from AI and JAL, I'd tip Air China and China Airlines as most likely Asian customer at this point.

Regarding the Air Force one, I don't think they'd go for A380 even if 747-8 wasn't on offer, most notably because the AF1 would need to be more than a luxury private jet. While the current plane is getting old, i don't see them rushing for a replacement any time soon unless John Travolta takes over the office.

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I see someone already posted the A380 as a replacement to the 747 Air Force one.

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Post by teach »

John Leahy is claiming there will be a further 30 A380's sold before years end to Asian carriers.
Do you have a source for that?

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Post by TexasGuy »

A350XWB wrote:EXCLUSIVE: US considers Airbus A380 as Air Force One and potentially a C-5 replacement ..... :lol:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/20 ... ement.html
This doesnt suprise me one bit. ;)

The article mentions fuel efficiency....i hope everyone understands the US gov. isnt interested in fuel efficiency. They are more interested in reliability and payload ;)
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Texasguy, yet I wonder why the USAF would look outside the US when they can make a request to Boeing to make them new aircraft for their needs, or Lockheed Martin.

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Post by chunk »

Cost? Timeframes? New design available? Trying to look like they welcome global competition? Still not much chance it would happen in reality though.....

As for the Asian thing? I would say India and China.

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Post by FLY4HOURS.BE »

I go with Asia-x and ANA.

ANA needs to replace some aging B747D's (Domestics) by 2012 (They will be 20 years old, and they have very high cycles). I can see them ordering 12 A380's for the domestic high-density routes if they need to... before further delivery slots are taken...
Imagine an A380 in that Pokemon livery :wink:

HND slots are not restricted, another runway is in construction...
NRT is another story :wink:

Here's an artist painting of an ANA A380::
http://www.geocities.jp/rainbow_md81/A388hp09.jpg

A comment by the pictures says: there is no doubt ANA will be the first Japanese A380-customer.
The artist and I seem to agree.

JAL doesn't have the budget right now, but if ANA goes A380, sooner or later, they will have to do that too.
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Post by smokejumper »

A350XWB wrote:EXCLUSIVE: US considers Airbus A380 as Air Force One and potentially a C-5 replacement ..... :lol:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/20 ... ement.html
As a C-5 replacement, the plane would need rough-field landing capabilityand roll-through capability (drive-on doors and ramps) on both ends.

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Post by achace »

Maybe a 380F could double as a freighter and troop carrier, but the C5 and C17 have capabilities simply not possible in the A380.

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FLY4HOURS.BE wrote:I go with Asia-x and ANA.

ANA needs to replace some aging B747D's (Domestics) by 2012 (They will be 20 years old, and they have very high cycles). I can see them ordering 12 A380's for the domestic high-density routes if they need to... before further delivery slots are taken...
Imagine an A380 in that Pokemon livery :wink:

HND slots are not restricted, another runway is in construction...
NRT is another story :wink:

Here's an artist painting of an ANA A380::
http://www.geocities.jp/rainbow_md81/A388hp09.jpg

A comment by the pictures says: there is no doubt ANA will be the first Japanese A380-customer.
The artist and I seem to agree.

JAL doesn't have the budget right now, but if ANA goes A380, sooner or later, they will have to do that too.

I think the Japaneses would never order the A380..because anti airbus


ps : exuse ..my english is poor

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Post by FLY4HOURS.BE »

because anti airbus
JAL still has 22 A300 since 2004 when it took-over JAS operations.
Ana has 30 A320 family aircraft in use against 20 of the competing B737 family.

The B747 , the B767 & the B777 were tailored to Japanese operations which is why we don't see any A330-340 family aircraft.

While Ana ordered 50 of the smallest variants of the B787's, I suspect that they are there only to replace the 20 year-old 50+ B767's in the first place, the 50 options being as back-up for the growth.
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