Flybe to compete with brussels airlines on UK routes?

Charlie Roy · Post by **Charlie Roy** » 31 Jul 2007, 11:51

New Flybe routes from Brussels:

Birmingham
Bristol
Newcastle

Will these be code shares?

Vinnie-Winnie · Post by **Vinnie-Winnie** » 31 Jul 2007, 13:06

Don't think both could compete on the Newcastle route! Rather thin route in terms of pax and yields!

We'll see!

Anyway good news! What aircrafts are they going to use on the routes? Dash 400's?

jet2uk · Post by **jet2uk** » 31 Jul 2007, 18:48

looks like flybe and brussels airlines are going to be codesharing... although flybe doesn't yet seel the brussels airlines flights, a glance at their timetables shows that the flights are at the same times as brussels airlines every time from bristol newcastle and birmingham, and from early september looks like the manchester flights will also all be codeshared, (although again they havn't started yet selling each other's flights. perhaps brussels airlines will also codeshare flybe's southampton services soon? and perhaps flybe brussels airlines' gatwick services?

what does everyone think will happen to the flybe-ba relationship from summer 2008? perhaps their codesharing will be dropped except for gatwick, where customers could connect through to ba's ling haul services? that would make sense

spotter1102 · Post by **spotter1102** » 31 Jul 2007, 18:56

When these 3 routes start ?

jet2uk · Post by **jet2uk** » 31 Jul 2007, 23:51

according to the flybe timetable should all kick off from september 3rd

Comet · Post by **Comet** » 01 Aug 2007, 11:40

Code sharing would be a pity. British passengers would like to see more affordable prices for flights to BRU than those currently offered by Spotty Tail - extortionate costs for Ryanair-type on board lack of service.

Flying on full service VLM is much cheaper than flying on "low cost" Spotty Tail.

Vinnie-Winnie · Post by **Vinnie-Winnie** » 01 Aug 2007, 13:39

Comet wrote:
Flying on full service VLM is much cheaper than flying on "low cost" Spotty Tail.

Is it? I mean fair enough there might be instances where this indeed applies but generally surely this cannot be the case!

But yeah you are right spotty tail SN is definately not the cheapest around... Easyjet From Bru to somewhere in the UK anyone?

TWA · Post by **TWA** » 01 Aug 2007, 14:04

luchtvaartnieuws.nl anounces codesharing between the two companies on several destinations

Post by **luchtzak** » 01 Aug 2007, 14:26

Joint Brussels Airlines - Flybe press release

Flybe announces new codeshare agreement with Brussels Airlines

Brussels, 1st August 2007 – Flybe, Europe’s largest regional airline, today announces a new interline codeshare agreement with Belgian’s leading airline Brussels Airlines. Flights go on sale today for travel from 2nd September 2007 in a deal that gives Flybe passengers increased travel options to the Belgian capital from additional regional bases across the UK. Also Brussels Airlines clients will enjoy more travel flexibility on the Manchester-Brussels route thanks to this partnership.

The partnership will be of special interest to Flybe’s business passengers, giving them the added value of being able to book through travel agents and Flybe’s call centre, offering a choice of six daily flights instead of Flybe’s existing three from Manchester.

The codeshare adds a number of new Brussels Airlines operated services to Brussels to the Flybe route network, including Birmingham-Brussels (6 daily flights), Newcastle-Brussels (2 daily flights) and Bristol-Brussels (2 daily flights) offering passengers increased choice and flexibility when travelling to this key European city.

Flybe passengers and Brussels Airlines passengers will also be able to take advantage of a new Flybe-operated, twice daily service from Southampton to Brussels which starts on 28th October.

Mike Rutter, Chief Commercial Officer, Flybe comments: “Today’s codeshare announcement sees Flybe taking a significant step into the Belgian market. Our existing services to the capital are extremely popular with our business passengers in particular and the codeshare with Brussels Airlines is a great opportunity for us to respond to customer demand and provide travellers with even more regional departure points to Brussels.”

Erik Follet, Executive Vice President Network of Brussels Airlines, comments: «We welcome the Flybe passengers on our popular regional UK-Brussels routes. Thanks to this partnership we can offer the Brussels Airlines clients now up to six daily departures on the Manchester-Brussels route. With Southampton we add a fifth UK region to our Network. Just like Flybe, Brussels Airlines offers a punctual and value for money service that suits the demand of passengers travelling for business or leisure. We are really looking forward to this partnership.»

tolipanebas · Post by **tolipanebas** » 01 Aug 2007, 14:38

I wonder what is going to happen to the BA code shares on SN flights to BHX, MAN, NCL and BRS now that they are put in code share with flybe.

Also, interesting to note LGW/LHR is excluded from the agreement, suggesting there SN will keep the code share with BA.

OO-VEX · Post by **OO-VEX** » 01 Aug 2007, 15:12

tolipanebas wrote:I wonder what is going to happen to the BA code shares on SN flights to BHX, MAN, NCL and BRS now that they are put in code share with flybe.

Also, interesting to note LGW/LHR is excluded from the agreement, suggesting there SN will keep the code share with BA.

As Flybe took over BA Connect (their regional business) we should see this codeshare agreement as a BA replacement instead of choosing a competitor. As BA is focussing on their LHR and LGW hubs, I guess they will continue the BA/SN codeshares to those destinations.

OO-VEX

tolipanebas · Post by **tolipanebas** » 01 Aug 2007, 16:25

OO-VEX wrote:
tolipanebas wrote:I wonder what is going to happen to the BA code shares on SN flights to BHX, MAN, NCL and BRS now that they are put in code share with flybe.

Also, interesting to note LGW/LHR is excluded from the agreement, suggesting there SN will keep the code share with BA.
As Flybe took over BA Connect (their regional business) we should see this codeshare agreement as a BA replacement instead of choosing a competitor. As BA is focussing on their LHR and LGW hubs, I guess they will continue the BA/SN codeshares to those destinations.

OO-VEX

I think so too indeed.

I don't know what the relation is between flyBE and BA, but it sure looks as if flyBE is BA's regional carrier (at least from an SN perspective) with the added benefit of having another route in the network: BRU-SOU.

In relation to the latter: isn't VLM operating that one? or at least haven't they? I know SOU has been one of those on-off routes, wonder if it will last this time....

Post by **sn26567** » 03 Aug 2007, 17:07

tolipanebas wrote:BRU-SOU.

In relation to the latter: isn't VLM operating that one? or at least haven't they? I know SOU has been one of those on-off routes, wonder if it will last this time....

VLM was never successfull on that route (too large planes) and has been replaced by Eastern Airways.