787 Rollout

Depretair · Post by **Depretair** » 09 Jul 2007, 01:29

It seems to be a wonderful aircraft.
Cant wait to see the first flight...

Good night

level-d-flyboy · Post by **level-d-flyboy** » 09 Jul 2007, 01:29

My god, i love that plane. Superb job by Boeing Company

Cant wait to see it fly for the first time

SabenaForever · Post by **SabenaForever** » 09 Jul 2007, 01:30

What a Beauty!!!!!!

Love it..

greetz Christophe

David747 · Post by **David747** » 09 Jul 2007, 01:32

Beautiful bird!, all the waiting paid off, she looks better real than in all the great drawings I downloaded, wow!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zenfookpower · Post by **Zenfookpower** » 09 Jul 2007, 01:34

blackbox wrote:c'mon people, cut the crap, show us the plane!!

Recognition of customers, financiers, worldwide suppliers, and people who build it is not crap.....

I enjoyed the presentation and recognition very much..

Ivan_Eagle · Post by **Ivan_Eagle** » 09 Jul 2007, 01:35

she's just
so ...
so ...
BEAUTIFUL

presentation, 9/10
broadcast, 7/10 (at the end very good)
airplane, 200/10

(

singapore -new york, 13h, slow airbus HAHA

)

Stella_Caeli · Post by **Stella_Caeli** » 09 Jul 2007, 01:37

Ivan_Eagle wrote: ( singapore -new york, 13h, slow airbus HAHA )

It was a very nice presentation ! And a beautiful plane !

Kind regards,
Sebastian

FLY4HOURS.BE · Post by **FLY4HOURS.BE** » 09 Jul 2007, 01:44

Beautiful bird!
The nose looks sharper in Boeing colors, I like it.
It looks better in real!

Good job and congratulations to Boeing and their partners.

The only negative aspect I ve seen in the presentation, are the old L1011-like economy class seats.
The cabin lightning is impressive, so are those special windows. The turbulence dampeners are a great innovation I did not expect to be revealed so soon.
The cockpit is going to be very interesting with military-derived technologies such as the head-up display.

Very interesting bird

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 09 Jul 2007, 01:46

An interesting blog on the history of innovation in aviation! and how it relates to the 787

http://varifrank.com/archives/2007/07/w ... this_1.php

achace · Post by **achace** » 09 Jul 2007, 05:02

It looks great!

The temporary fasteners are a bit of a worry.

Mike Bair says 1000, and Cogan, one of the production guys says several thousand.

Just hope they know where they all went.

Cheers
Achace

Post by **luchtzak** » 09 Jul 2007, 10:47

Any pictures of the new 787 available already?

CX · Post by CX » 09 Jul 2007, 11:13

achace wrote:It looks great!

The temporary fasteners are a bit of a worry.

Mike Bair says 1000, and Cogan, one of the production guys says several thousand.

Just hope they know where they all went.

Cheers
Achace

Where are the fasteners??

edit: Qatar confirmed as customer ...

Zorba · Post by **Zorba** » 09 Jul 2007, 11:44

Picture from VRTnieuws.net

Great plane IMO, looks amazingly nice.

Other ones:

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6013870
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1233546/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1233653/L/

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 09 Jul 2007, 13:31

Boeing Shot with better perspective.

http://boeingmedia.com/imageDetail.cfm? ... lr=release

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 09 Jul 2007, 13:37

Qatar has been identified as the customer listed on Boeings website as unidentified, in fact their logo was painted on the roll-out plane!

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... er=germany

There is also a rumour that Delta will place an order for around 100 in the next week or two with involvement of a large leasing company.

fcw · Post by **fcw** » 09 Jul 2007, 13:56

A pitty they were missing a couple to announce the 787th order yesterday

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 09 Jul 2007, 15:08

A good friend reminded me of this quote from the 1967 movie

" The Graduate "

Mr. McGuire: I just want to say one word to you - just one word.
Ben: Yes sir.
Mr. McGuire: Are you listening?
Ben: Yes I am.
Mr. McGuire: 'Plastics.'
Ben: Exactly how do you mean?
Mr. McGuire: There's a great future in plastics. Think about it. Will you think about it?
Ben: Yes I will.
Mr. McGuire: Shh! Enough said. That's a deal.

How prophetic!

smokejumper · Post by **smokejumper** » 09 Jul 2007, 15:33

The Qatar order is indeed interesting. Qatar's logo appears on the 787 and Boeing states that Qatar is the "mystery" order for 30 planes; yet, Qatar says that they can not confirm the order.

In the wake of the previous Boeing/Qatar order situation, I'm sure that Boeing did not let the cat out of the bag without Qatar's agreement.

What message can we learn from this?

smokejumper · Post by **smokejumper** » 09 Jul 2007, 16:04

I saw a posting on the internet that Delta might place an order for as many as 100 787's this month. If true, several things come to mind:

- Can American or British Air afford to not place an order soon after (for either the A350 or the B 787)?

- Since the 787 is generally sold out through 2015 (although a few slots are probably being held for large, prestiegeous customers), any large orders will certainly put pressure on Boeing to increase production (a second production line?).

- Boeing has a critical decision facing them in the near future relating to the 787-10. Emerites, Qantas and other airlines have called for the introduction of the -10. Boeing reportedly is either (1) reluctant to introduce the -10 since it would jeopardize the 777-200, or (2) is delaying the introduction until they get the 787 production (with 3 variants, -3, -8, -9) under control. I believe that Boeing realizes that by delaying, they risk loosing orders to the A350-1000 and are just trying to get the 787 under control before a new variant is announced.

-- The main issue facing the 787-10 appears to be that of range. Both Emirates and Qantas want longer range than Boeing is now prepared to offer for the plane. Just adding supplemental tanks will not result in the desired characteristics. If you just add more fuel with supplemental tanks, you have to cut revenue payload to stay within certificated weight limits. To give the longer range with desired payload, you need higher thrust engines (for balanced field take-off distance), bigger landing gear (to handle the weight), bigger brakes (for aborted stopping distance), etc. All this requires a lot of new design and testng - Boeing will get to it, but now they are busy with the 787-3, 787-8, 787-9, 747-8, plus development work on the 737 and 777.

ehamspotter · Post by **ehamspotter** » 09 Jul 2007, 17:15

hello;

When i saw the 787 on drawings, i didn't liked it very much...

but i must say, i'm surprised in positive way..

(500th post..)

rgds:Jeroen