SN flight to and from CDG

firrech · Post by **firrech** » 29 May 2007, 22:18

Does someone know how high the loadfactor is for daily SN flight to and from Paris?
Is that flight not too big for the segment?
Are there so much french people who fly to Africa on SN flights?

Thank you very much.

AVION1 · Post by **AVION1** » 31 May 2007, 19:11

Here is for May 2007 trafic on the route

01/05 A71 D27PAX
02/05 A29 D19
03/05 A13 D35
04/05 A43 D36
05/05 A45 D52
06/05 A42 D34
07/05 A29 D60
08/05 A97 D26
09/05 A36 D7
10/05 A24 D45
11/05 A41 D55
12/05 A58 D56
13/05 A41 D39
14/05 AA30 D51
15/05 A26 D43
16/05 A29 D117
17/05 A16 D67
18/05 A49 D25
19/05 A36 D37
20/05 A79 D38
21/05 A30 D56
22/05 A55 D55
23/05 A28 D10
24/05 A21 D63
25/05 A42 D40
26/05 A74 D69
27/05 A63 D41
28/05 A41 D40
29/05 A72 D44
30/05 no info
31/05 A6 D67

pijaleu · Post by **pijaleu** » 01 Jun 2007, 08:05

AVION1 wrote:Here is for May 2007 trafic on the route

01/05 A71 D27PAX
02/05 A29 D19
...

Can someone explain this figures?
What's A71 D27 or A29 D19?

Thanks!

blackhawk · Post by **blackhawk** » 01 Jun 2007, 08:53

pijaleu wrote:
AVION1 wrote:Here is for May 2007 trafic on the route

01/05 A71 D27PAX
02/05 A29 D19
...
Can someone explain this figures?
What's A71 D27 or A29 D19?

Thanks!

A = arrival = 71 passengers arriving from Paris
D = departure = 27 passengers going to Paris

Buzz · Post by **Buzz** » 01 Jun 2007, 09:05

So they pretty much never had a loadfactor over 40-50 %? They must get some good yields on those africa flights to compensate for this lossmaking flight...

Why don't they open the flight up to non-CDG-Africa trafic? Could earn them some extra cash.

brusselsairlinesfan · Post by **brusselsairlinesfan** » 01 Jun 2007, 10:35

Buzz wrote:So they pretty much never had a loadfactor over 40-50 %? They must get some good yields on those africa flights to compensate for this lossmaking flight...

Why don't they open the flight up to non-CDG-Africa trafic? Could earn them some extra cash.

I agree... as i would love to fly SN on their european network !

FLY4HOURS.BE · Post by **FLY4HOURS.BE** » 01 Jun 2007, 20:54

I rather fly to CDG than take that nasty Thalys thing...
It would be more reliable (Thalys has always delays and is influenced by other traffic) and alot cheaper...

Damn that governemental agreement!!

OO-VEX · Post by **OO-VEX** » 01 Jun 2007, 22:03

Buzz wrote:Why don't they open the flight up to non-CDG-Africa trafic? Could earn them some extra cash.

They do.
When trying to book a seat on the BRU-CDG flight on Friday June 8, a b.light ticket is offered at 142.99 Euro. It is like you said, earning some extra cash. A cheap ticket isn't what they are looking for as you can not call them a high speed train competitor (because of just 1 daily connection). So those who really want to fly can buy a ticket and SN is happy enough as they can sell it with a profit.

FLY4HOURS.BE wrote:Damn that governemental agreement!!

Which agreement are you talking about?

OO-VEX

eurofighter · Post by **eurofighter** » 05 Jun 2007, 18:07

FLY4HOURS.BE wrote:I rather fly to CDG than take that nasty Thalys thing...
It would be more reliable (Thalys has always delays and is influenced by other traffic) and alot cheaper...

Damn that governemental agreement!!

There is only one destination from Brussels where the plane cannot compete anymore with the high speed train: Paris. Even from where I live in NE Brussels only 10 minutes from the airport, Thalys is the best option to go to Paris city, every half hour a train that travels within 1h20, and to CDG several times per day in just 1h15. No plane can beat that on such a short distance.

pijaleu · Post by **pijaleu** » 08 Jun 2007, 10:11

A = arrival = 71 passengers arriving from Paris
D = departure = 27 passengers going to Paris

Where do you find such information?
Is there somewhere an overview of loadfactors per flight, per airline, etc to be found on the internet?
It's very interesting information.
Does such a website exists?

AVION1 · Post by **AVION1** » 08 Jun 2007, 14:13

Informations comes from intranet Aeroports de Paris
So only available for the staff
Sorry

TWA · Post by **TWA** » 08 Jun 2007, 17:16

Is CDG still operated by Axis' B737 or does SN fly its own metal again to Paris?

Post by **sn26567** » 08 Jun 2007, 18:01

TWA wrote:Is CDG still operated by Axis' B737 or does SN fly its own metal again to Paris?

The route is flown by French airline Europe Airpost (5O).

jan_olieslagers · Post by **jan_olieslagers** » 09 Jun 2007, 22:24

FLY4HOURS.BE wrote:Thalys has always delays

Do you have any support for this statement?