bye bye Air Madrid

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airolea
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bye bye Air Madrid

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Air Madrid has decided to stop all its operations ....
Full story here: http://tinyurl.com/ymrrov [in spanish]

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Post by teach »

From what I hear, this is a case of 'good riddance' (terrible service, enormous delays, incidents,...).

Being opportunistic here: One of their planes, EC-JMF, is an early-build, GE-powered A330-300. Very few early A333 with those engines, and thus a bit of an 'orphan', and probably not easy to place somewhere else. Except with one airline, which happens to operate three of the other few early-build GE 333s, and happens to be looking at getting an additional plane...

You listening, SN? :wink:

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What a surprise, didn't see this coming :?

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Air Madrid, viaje al infierno?

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Air Madrid fleet age was 11+ years old and lacked maintenance.
The Spanish Dirección General de Aviación Civil was thinking to suspend its AOC license.
NM decided then after more and more technical problems, remember the recent story of one of our member's 'mom in law', to stop operating.

Air Madrid is op de fles, how do you say that in Spanish? 'en el flacon' due to lack of maintenance, and I presume not because of the age of its aircraft. Such lacks are usually due to underfinancing.

NM's long haul flights have known month of huge delays, they even cancelled some of their long haul flights, and anticipated the suspension.
The reasons can be seen when you click here.
Air Madrid's staff probably saw the decision coming. Painful... Air Madrid, viaje al infierno...

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Post by ElcoB »

And they left 120.000 passengers stranded in Central and South America........

:arrow: Air Madrid suspende sus actividades y deja sin retorno a 120.000 clientes en Latinoamérica

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Post by Philippe1983 »

ElcoB wrote:And they left 120.000 passengers stranded in Central and South America........
:arrow: A good opportunity for Ryanair, like they did with stranded British Airways passengers !
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Post by AirDupont »

Nice video indeed, I wouln't feel very safe on that aircraft.
And indeed, would be nice if (SN)BA would be able to get 1 or 2 330's from Air Madrid.

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Post by DannyVDB »

Hi,

For me it is surprsing and not at the same time ...

My clleague used them when going to Santiagio, and it seemd not to be so good: quality of the interiors, delay, ...

I am curious to se what will happen with the airplanes ...µ

Danny

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Post by OO-SBZ »

Philippe1983 wrote:
ElcoB wrote:And they left 120.000 passengers stranded in Central and South America........
:arrow: A good opportunity for Ryanair, like they did with stranded British Airways passengers !
This could be a good opportunity as far as the Ryanair Boeing 737-800s do not have the range long haul flights :wink:

BeN :idea:

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:wow:

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Post by Stij »

AirDupont wrote:Nice video indeed, I wouln't feel very safe on that aircraft.
And indeed, would be nice if (SN)BA would be able to get 1 or 2 330's from Air Madrid.
Mmmmm, getting aircraft fro a company that was going under and with lack of mainteance, a Belgian company tried this before with, well, not such a good result. oo-tuc if I'm correct.

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Between 200,000 and 300,000 passengers abandoned?

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Latest tallies say, between 200,000 and 300,000 passengers could be abandoned over Christmas.
MN is blaming its actions on a development ministry threat to suspend its licence.
Ticket sales had fallen dramatically since the announcement from the development ministry and suppliers had refused it credit.

Air Madrid's commercial image was completely destroyed.... by the ministry it says.
But can Air Madrid ignore what we have seen in the movies, see higher.
And are 60h delays and keeping passengers on board aircraft for overnight because of delays regular practices?
Problems may occur sometime, but if they persist, than it is time for real crisis management, MN did not succeed to overcome both. Lack of finance, lack of management skill?

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Re: Between 200,000 and 300,000 passengers abandoned?

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SN30952 wrote:Latest tallies say, between 200,000 and 300,000 passengers could be abandoned over Christmas.
A bit exgagerated me thinks...
3 wide bodies doing one return per day= 2000 pax/day
a couple of 319's another 1500 pax a day

So Christmas should last for two and a half months to leave 300000 abandoned
That said, still a shame for the poor ones who are stranded...

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The Transportation Secretary,Fernando Palao, has announced that the Ministry has decided to rent between four and six "large-size" planes to transport "priority" passengers until the 21st, when the elergency apparatus will end. The company's employees will continue to receive their salaries, according to company sources, which has reassured ELPAIS.com that they will take charge of the return to Madrid of any passengers currently in Latinoamérica with a return ticket for yesterday, Friday.
:arrow: El Pais: Fomento alquilará hasta seis aviones para transportar a pasajeros "prioritarios" de Air Madrid (16/12/2006)

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How many aircrafts of each type did they have in their fleet?

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AirDupont wrote:How many aircrafts of each type did they have in their fleet?
The Air Madrid fleet consists of the following aircraft (as of November 2006):

* 1 Airbus A310-300
* 2 Airbus A319-100
* 3 Airbus A330-200
* 2 Airbus A330-300
* 1 Airbus A340-300
* 1 Boeing 737-400 (operated by Futura International Airways)

In March 2006, Air Madrid fleet age was 10.6 years old.

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Post by TWA »

1 X A310-300
3 X A330-200
2 X A330-300
1 X A340-300
2 X A319

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Post by A318 »

Already wrote this in my other article, how and when should my mom in law get back?
I feel this is not going to be brought to a good end, this is going to cost a lot of extra euros i am afraid, or the spanish governement should do something for stranded passengers.
However, she supposed to fly back january 25th so maybe they are back in the air or IATA is arranging a solution with other carriers.
Having your mom in law for 1,5 months is okay but 1,5 year is killing ;)

Greetz,

Erwin
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Post by TWA »

Imagine SN taking over 5 A330's to boost up African, American and Asian destinations such as JNB, CAI, JFK, ORD, IAD, HKG, SIN...

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