Cathay Pacific Expansion

CXRules · Post by **CXRules** » 22 Jun 2006, 14:46

After announcing the acquisition of Dragonair, Cathay placed an order of six B747-400ERF:

http://www.cathaypacific.com/intl/about ... 48,00.html

DFW · Post by **DFW** » 22 Jun 2006, 19:08

Interesting that they wouldn't wait a little longer for the more efficient 747-8F. It's a indication that freight service is exploding and capacity is the priority right now.

Stepha380 · Post by **Stepha380** » 22 Jun 2006, 20:07

By ordering the 744, CX doesn't take any risk concerning the deliveries and the performance and no additionnal costs regarding maintenance, training...

Concerning the expansion they also have 18 777-300ER on order.

CXRules · Post by **CXRules** » 22 Jun 2006, 21:01

Cargolux expected to receive the first B747-8F in the 3Q of 2009. The Cathay's order bridged that gap from B744 to B748. I believe Cathay receive a good deal out of this as the six planes will be delivered from mid-2008 to mid-2009. They still have 5 orders of B747-400BCF.

Boeing Press Release: http://www.boeing.com/commercial/747fam ... 2c_nr.html

CX · Post by CX » 23 Jun 2006, 02:27

By doing this they also give themselves the chance to look at the A380F. A380F may not be as good a freighter as the 748F, but afterall it does carry quite a bit more load per trip.

CXRules · Post by **CXRules** » 23 Jun 2006, 03:18

Maybe, but don't bet on it. A380 and A380F aren't fitting Cathay well at this time, so I don't expect them to order any in the next few years.

More on Cathay's order, Cathay's attempt to build it own terminal, and Air China privatizing CNAC. http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_deta ... con_type=1

CXRules · Post by **CXRules** » 23 Jun 2006, 15:00

According to this report, the order does take up all remaining 747 slots.

http://www.atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=5491

CXRules · Post by **CXRules** » 23 Jun 2006, 20:53

Looks like a 2nd Silver Bullet is done, an ex-Varig B747-200SF:

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewpho ... picid=2964

Looking sharp! The rest of the cargo fleet will be stripped to silver.

CXRules · Post by **CXRules** » 26 Jun 2006, 15:42

Go article on Cathay-Dragonair merger:

http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles/20 ... walls.html

CX · Post by CX » 26 Jun 2006, 16:01

CXRules wrote:Maybe, but don't bet on it. A380 and A380F aren't fitting Cathay well at this time, so I don't expect them to order any in the next few years.

More on Cathay's order, Cathay's attempt to build it own terminal, and Air China privatizing CNAC. http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_deta ... con_type=1

Well the article (below by ATW) does say that Boeing's rumoured 747-8 stretch is aimed at Cathay... I would be extremely disappointed if they take the 748 as opposed to A380, i hope they don't do it.. 748 is nothing but a stretched 744, and i hope the world's best airline goes for the beast! Probably not this year, not next year but the year after it might be time... their huge 773ER order can last them long enough to wait that long.. And the 748 still hold only up to 500 while the A380 holding up to over 800, there is still a huge gap. sorry off topic, but just my hope. I can imagine them getting 748Fs though..

globetrotter · Post by **globetrotter** » 26 Jun 2006, 21:33

Cathay should retain the Dragon name, small planes doing odd places in China with CX identity dosent sound good for the airlines image.

CXRules · Post by **CXRules** » 27 Jun 2006, 04:53

I don't know whether or not Cathay will go for B747-8, but at this time, they are not ordering either one (A380 or B748), not this year, probably not next year either. It is because A380 is too big for now, and B748 is still a concept with promise. I think the B747-400ERF order sent a signal that they're not ready to commit to B748 just yet.

CXRules · Post by **CXRules** » 28 Jun 2006, 19:59

China Southern's response to Cathay's purchase of Dragonair?!?!

http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx ... 45561.html

CXRules · Post by **CXRules** » 28 Jun 2006, 20:02

Air China stays with Star; despite closer-tie with oneworld carrier Cathay Pacific: http://online.wsj.com/google_login.html ... lenews_wsj

Advisor · Post by **Advisor** » 28 Jun 2006, 20:56

I was wondering.....Since CX has always been so bullish on the growth pattern and since the Swire Group has know to be so clear.....How come on A380 on its list

CXRules · Post by **CXRules** » 29 Jun 2006, 03:27

Hongkong and China reached new aviation deal allowing more capacity between HK and the Mainland: http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_deta ... r=20060629

Advisor: I think there's a typo in your question, can you clarify it?

TexasGuy · Post by **TexasGuy** » 29 Jun 2006, 03:33

I would like to see Cathy planes here in Houston whether they are cargo or passenger jets

:):):)

CXRules · Post by **CXRules** » 03 Jul 2006, 15:47

It's a done deal! Even if the Dragonair deal falls through, Cathay will return to Shanghai anyway.

http://wcbs880.com/topic/ap_news.php?st ... _f_f_9----

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_HK/ ... 0011d21c39____

http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx ... 55336.html

CXRules · Post by **CXRules** » 03 Jul 2006, 22:42

One more article on Cathay's China expansion:

http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_deta ... r=20060704

Advisor · Post by **Advisor** » 04 Jul 2006, 10:27

Thanks for correcting.

Was wondering....how come NO A380 on its list....