Finally a big move by SN BA in Africa: it wants to take over Cameroon Airlines, its 4 planes and its domestic and international routes! But it will have competitors:
https://www.aviation24.be/article11353.html
I think Camair has a 747! Interesting, no?
SN Brussels' expansion in Africa: it may acquire Camair
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SN Brussels' expansion in Africa: it may acquire Camair
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André
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Has been rumoured for a long time...
It is no secret SN has been actively looking for a hub somewhere in the region and Cameroon is a stable central african country which would make it the ideal base for a kind of minihub in Douala.
Also, the bilateral between Cameroon and Belgium allows for a daily flight.
The planes used for the minihub would come from SN (the 6 BAE146) which have to undergo serious equipement upgrades to comply with the stricter naviation performance requirements in the EU as from 2007 (deemed too expensive for these old planes) and would be on surplus anyhow once a full merger between SN and TV is realized (also expected first half of 2007)
Anyway, we'll see what comes from it, as there is some stif competition.
It is no secret SN has been actively looking for a hub somewhere in the region and Cameroon is a stable central african country which would make it the ideal base for a kind of minihub in Douala.
Also, the bilateral between Cameroon and Belgium allows for a daily flight.
The planes used for the minihub would come from SN (the 6 BAE146) which have to undergo serious equipement upgrades to comply with the stricter naviation performance requirements in the EU as from 2007 (deemed too expensive for these old planes) and would be on surplus anyhow once a full merger between SN and TV is realized (also expected first half of 2007)
Anyway, we'll see what comes from it, as there is some stif competition.
This is indeed some very interesting news item.
However the competition might be strong as well. Let's hope SN gets the deal.
I doubt that RAM will get the deal. RAM is busy with other airlines like Air Gabon international.
What about Comair ? How many planes do they have ? Are they profitable ??
IMHO Kenya Airways might be the strongest competitor to SN.
Chris
However the competition might be strong as well. Let's hope SN gets the deal.
I doubt that RAM will get the deal. RAM is busy with other airlines like Air Gabon international.
What about Comair ? How many planes do they have ? Are they profitable ??
IMHO Kenya Airways might be the strongest competitor to SN.
Chris
I'm not so happy with their fleet:
737-200, 26 years old
737-300, 20 years old
757-200, 17 years old, stored
The 747-300 (21 years old) is active as HS-VAB with... Phuket Air
http://www.plane-spotters.net/Airline/Cameroon_Airlines
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SA travel news (20 March):
Kenya Airways has confirmed that its Tanzanian partner airline, Precision Air, is looking into the possibility of tendering for a stake in Air Tanzania.
South African airways is currently in discussions with the Ministry of Public Enterprises over its “disengagement” from Air Tanzania. However, no new developments can be expected until SAA has formally pulled out of the merger. Precision Air could not yet comment on the matter.
737-200, 26 years old
737-300, 20 years old
757-200, 17 years old, stored
The 747-300 (21 years old) is active as HS-VAB with... Phuket Air
http://www.plane-spotters.net/Airline/Cameroon_Airlines
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SA travel news (20 March):
Kenya Airways has confirmed that its Tanzanian partner airline, Precision Air, is looking into the possibility of tendering for a stake in Air Tanzania.
South African airways is currently in discussions with the Ministry of Public Enterprises over its “disengagement” from Air Tanzania. However, no new developments can be expected until SAA has formally pulled out of the merger. Precision Air could not yet comment on the matter.
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Where can i find some more info on this?tolipanebas wrote:the stricter naviation performance requirements in the EU as from 2007
Thanks!
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I think that regi is wright regarding to his concerns about luggage. African passengers always take a lot of luggage with them. This might give problems with the BAE146. I know from experience that when a BAE146 is fully booked with only European passengers it is sometimes difficult to load all the luggage. So you can imagine the problem when you have a BAE146 that is fully booked with African passengers.
Putting the B737's from VEX in Africa is not a bad idea. The have enough space for the luggage and they even can take cargo as well. Afterall cargo is quite important for SN.
Putting the B737's from VEX in Africa is not a bad idea. The have enough space for the luggage and they even can take cargo as well. Afterall cargo is quite important for SN.
What are you talking about? Need for acars? No big deal if it's only that.The planes used for the minihub would come from SN (the 6 BAE146) which have to undergo serious equipement upgrades to comply with the stricter naviation performance requirements in the EU as from 2007 (deemed too expensive for these old planes) and would be on surplus anyhow once a full merger between SN and TV is realized (also expected first half of 2007)
Thanks for doubting about my informationJohan23 wrote:Where does this info come from?
Reliable sources or rumours?
In the forum you can find rumours. In the latest news section of Luchtzk, it is reliable information, confirmed by four newspapers in Morocco, France and Cameroon. Is that enough?
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You'll still be allowed to fly without RVSM after 2007. RVSM is not necessary for the 146. The ceiling is 31000 with RVSM, without it's 28000, no such a difference.
For GNS-X, I guess it's true, but here again, it's not a big work.
Concerning the topic, I have serious doubt SN would expand in Africa in such a way, their management is so conservative! Moreover, they have to find pilots to fly the airplane in Africa...
For GNS-X, I guess it's true, but here again, it's not a big work.
Concerning the topic, I have serious doubt SN would expand in Africa in such a way, their management is so conservative! Moreover, they have to find pilots to fly the airplane in Africa...
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RAM is trying to develop a network of African Airlines. Camair would fit into that network well. The question would be if RAM had the management resources to be devoted to making Camair a success or if as you say, they are already too busy with other airlines and this oppurtunity with Camair is a bit too soon for it to be successful for themAvro wrote:I doubt that RAM will get the deal. RAM is busy with other airlines like Air Gabon international.