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sn26567 wrote: 28 Aug 2020, 17:12
Atlantis wrote: 25 Aug 2020, 22:05 Poland has delayed its move to expand the list of countries with which flights are banned.

It was meant to be increased tomorrow to include Spain, Belgium, Malta and 60 others. But it will now happen no earlier than 1 September, reportedly in order to give tourists more time to return safely to Poland.
Belgium escapes the ban (but SN has already cancelled its flights to WAW).

Planes from following 46 countries will not be allowed to come to Poland as of 2 September: Belize; Bosnia and Herzegovina; Montenegro; The Federative Republic of Brazil; The Kingdom of Bahrain; The Kingdom of Eswatini; The Kingdom of Spain; The Mexican United States; Israel; Qatar; Kuwait; Libya; Albania; Argentina; Armenia; Chile; Croatia; The Dominican Republic; Ecuador; France; Guatemala; Honduras; India; Iraq; Kazakhstan; Colombia; Kosovo; Costa Rica; The Lebanese Republic; The Republic of North Macedonia; The Republic of Maldives; Malta; Moldova; Namibia; Panama; Paraguay; Peru; South Africa; The Republic of El Salvador; The Republic of Suriname; Cape Verde; Romania; United States of America; Grand Duchy of Luxembourg; The Multinational State of Bolivia; Bahamas Community.

Source: https://www.bankier.pl/wiadomosc/Hiszpa ... 51514.html
Planes or flights ? Because from France, Ryanair (IRL) and EasyJet (UK) operates many flights to Poland, from French Province.

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Question: If we book with SN (for December) and there's a covid peak at destination, do you get refunded when you cancel the flight? Or not?
Thanks.

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brabel wrote: 30 Aug 2020, 20:16 Question: If we book with SN (for December) and there's a covid peak at destination, do you get refunded when you cancel the flight? Or not?
Thanks.
My experience: if SN cancels the flight, you can either get a voucher (fare + 50 €, immediately) or a refund (with some delay). If the flight is operated and you refuse to fly, you can either change the dates or lose your fare.
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ezis_bis wrote: 25 Aug 2020, 21:58
Atlantis wrote: 25 Aug 2020, 21:48
Yeah sure, no problem. Here is the source, Notes from Poland.

https://notesfrompoland.com/2020/08/21/ ... o-go-list/
Thank you. No LOT then.
Hi, new update. Belgium is removed from their banned list. Or to be more clear, Belgium was intended to be placed on but it never was actually and flights are ongoing in meantime. Also SN will start flying to waw at the end of this month

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Atlantis wrote: 01 Sep 2020, 13:41 Hi, new update. Belgium is removed from their banned list. Or to be more clear, Belgium was intended to be placed on but it never was actually and flights are ongoing in meantime. Also SN will start flying to waw at the end of this month
Thanks for the update.
My partner is now in Tallinn thanks to Finnair, and I stayed home. We didn't take the risk

Next time perhaps :)

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There was an SN flight over Banjul today. I guess we're not repatriating to Banjul anymore. Was the plane empty or in cargo mode only? If not, who are those non-essential passengers ...?

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Anyone knows, if SN will resume service to Luanda ?

brussels airlines during the month of September and October 2020 plans to operate following Intercontinental service, on board Airbus A330-300 aircraft (Tel Aviv operated by A320). Information listed below is as of 01SEP20, although travel restrictions continue to impact the airline’s planned operation.

Operation listed below is in effect until 24OCT20.

Brussels – Accra eff 11SEP20 2 weekly
Brussels – Banjul – Dakar – Brussels 1 weekly
Brussels – Bujumbura – Entebbe 1 weekly
Brussels – Cotonou – Abidjan – Brussels 2 weekly (3 weekly from 12SEP20)
Brussels – Dakar 3 weekly (2 weekly from 07SEP20)
Brussels – Douala – Yaounde 3 weekly
Brussels – Entebbe – Kigali 2 weekly
Brussels – Freetown – Dakar – Brussels 1 weekly (2 weekly from 13SEP20)
Brussels – Kinshasa 3 weekly (4 weekly from 30SEP20)
Brussels – Lome – Abidjan – Brussels 2 weekly
Brussels – Monrovia – Abidjan – Brussels 2 weekly
Brussels – New York JFK eff 01OCT20 3 weekly
Brussels – Tel Aviv eff 01OCT20 3 weekly

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-01sep20/

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rwandan-flyer wrote: 02 Sep 2020, 21:26 Anyone knows, if SN will resume service to Luanda ?

brussels airlines during the month of September and October 2020 plans to operate following Intercontinental service, on board Airbus A330-300 aircraft (Tel Aviv operated by A320). Information listed below is as of 01SEP20, although travel restrictions continue to impact the airline’s planned operation.

Operation listed below is in effect until 24OCT20.

Brussels – Accra eff 11SEP20 2 weekly
Brussels – Banjul – Dakar – Brussels 1 weekly
Brussels – Bujumbura – Entebbe 1 weekly
Brussels – Cotonou – Abidjan – Brussels 2 weekly (3 weekly from 12SEP20)
Brussels – Dakar 3 weekly (2 weekly from 07SEP20)
Brussels – Douala – Yaounde 3 weekly
Brussels – Entebbe – Kigali 2 weekly
Brussels – Freetown – Dakar – Brussels 1 weekly (2 weekly from 13SEP20)
Brussels – Kinshasa 3 weekly (4 weekly from 30SEP20)
Brussels – Lome – Abidjan – Brussels 2 weekly
Brussels – Monrovia – Abidjan – Brussels 2 weekly
Brussels – New York JFK eff 01OCT20 3 weekly
Brussels – Tel Aviv eff 01OCT20 3 weekly

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-01sep20/

According to its article, the airline will operate only 23% of its capacity, instead of 40%, due to restrictions

What will be from mid October to early December which is the lowest period in term of demande, in aviation. However, contrary to Lufthansa, TAP, Air France or Iberia, SN doesn't have domestic network, due to the small size of the country and long haul market is mainly to Africa, while KLM serves Africa, North America, Asia and South America. Probably with a strong domestic network (again it's not SN fault) a biggest long haul market, capacity will be probably higher.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... trictions/

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rwandan-flyer wrote: 02 Sep 2020, 21:26 Anyone knows, if SN will resume service to Luanda ?

brussels airlines during the month of September and October 2020 plans to operate following Intercontinental service, on board Airbus A330-300 aircraft (Tel Aviv operated by A320). Information listed below is as of 01SEP20, although travel restrictions continue to impact the airline’s planned operation.

Operation listed below is in effect until 24OCT20.

Brussels – Accra eff 11SEP20 2 weekly
Brussels – Banjul – Dakar – Brussels 1 weekly
Brussels – Bujumbura – Entebbe 1 weekly
Brussels – Cotonou – Abidjan – Brussels 2 weekly (3 weekly from 12SEP20)
Brussels – Dakar 3 weekly (2 weekly from 07SEP20)
Brussels – Douala – Yaounde 3 weekly
Brussels – Entebbe – Kigali 2 weekly
Brussels – Freetown – Dakar – Brussels 1 weekly (2 weekly from 13SEP20)
Brussels – Kinshasa 3 weekly (4 weekly from 30SEP20)
Brussels – Lome – Abidjan – Brussels 2 weekly
Brussels – Monrovia – Abidjan – Brussels 2 weekly
Brussels – New York JFK eff 01OCT20 3 weekly
Brussels – Tel Aviv eff 01OCT20 3 weekly

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-01sep20/
The Embassy here said that it's possible that Brussels Airlines will maybe drop Luanda :(
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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To bring in extra money, a lot of extra money for SN, they better would reserve 2 or 3 A330 for cargo flights. To transport this COVID vaccine and Brucargo being one of the important pharma hubs in the world, they really need a lot of planes to transport it. SN has experience in flying to Africa but also to the important pharma hubs in America. Prices for cargo are more decreased, at the beginning was really high, but they still can earn very good money on it.

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When Liege has been selected as a WHO airport and it is full of cargo 747s? These are transports that need volume availability and might even need containers with temperature tracing capability, not really something a pax a330 can offer...

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Bracebrace wrote: 13 Sep 2020, 11:06 When Liege has been selected as a WHO airport and it is full of cargo 747s? These are transports that need volume availability and might even need containers with temperature tracing capability, not really something a pax a330 can offer...
Aircraft besides the B747 are also transporting temperature controlled goods, just for your info.

At BRU there are a few operators with B747, so it would be crazy if only those ones could be. QR, ET and EK are also transporting temperature controlled goods.

A certain number of airlines with very limited pax flights where using a few of their planes for cargo transport. There account was receiving very nice amounts in those very uncertain times.

Just a proposal to our main operator at the airport....

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Not temperature control, but temperature tracing. It allows tracking and tracing of containers and their temperature inside from the ground.

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Bracebrace wrote: 13 Sep 2020, 12:03 Not temperature control, but temperature tracing. It allows tracking and tracing of containers and their temperature inside from the ground.
I know that

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Last Sunday, I flew on SN 3802 From Faro to Brussels on OO-SNJ.
I was pleasantly surprised by the friendly crew.
Also the enthousiasm of the captain, and the information he gave about the routing was nice. He even came online to give extra information about the views of the Belgian cities in the final stage of the descent, as the weather was exceptionally nice and clear...
Keep up doing this!!!

Of course, this info could also have been provided by moving maps, but unfortunately they are not used in de Brussels Airlines' A320's. My wife and daughter flew the same route with Tui, and they had the moving maps in their 737.
Tui however doesn't allow the passengers to use the bagage compartments above the seats.. all hand luggage must be stowed under the seats... Strange policy if you ask me, and strange that both companies use totally different procedures...

Regards,

Duke

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Greenpeace could challenge Belgian aid to Brussels Airlines


Greenpeace "does not exclude" from initiating legal proceedings to contest the aid granted by Belgium to Brussels Airlines, as the NGO undertook in the Netherlands regarding the aid given to the airline Dutch KLM, reports La Libre Belgique on Thursday.

Greenpeace has initiated summary proceedings in the Netherlands to force the Dutch government to end financial aid to the airline KLM. According to the NGO, this aid is not accompanied by "sufficient" environmental conditions.

https://translate.google.fr/translate?h ... s-airlines

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Duke wrote: 15 Sep 2020, 12:59 Last Sunday, I flew on SN 3802 From Faro to Brussels on OO-SNJ.
I was pleasantly surprised by the friendly crew.
Also the enthousiasm of the captain, and the information he gave about the routing was nice. He even came online to give extra information about the views of the Belgian cities in the final stage of the descent, as the weather was exceptionally nice and clear...
Keep up doing this!!!

Of course, this info could also have been provided by moving maps, but unfortunately they are not used in de Brussels Airlines' A320's. My wife and daughter flew the same route with Tui, and they had the moving maps in their 737.
Tui however doesn't allow the passengers to use the bagage compartments above the seats.. all hand luggage must be stowed under the seats... Strange policy if you ask me, and strange that both companies use totally different procedures...

Regards,

Duke
I can explain it. Within Tui we advise pax to not use the overhead compartments. Some pursers take it really strict and do not allow it. We advise it so that when the plane stops people do not immediately stand up and try to take their bags and that we can’t provide the social distance space. Like yesterday on my flight, pax didn’t listen putted everything up, aircraft at the gate everyone up in the aisle and no social distance space so the pursers had to make speeches. It also surprise me that we sometimes have different procedures.

Like we still do service on board (I don’t know if Brussels restarted it yet). I think we follow the EASA rules and then the companies add their rules to make/try to make flying as safe as possible.

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Brussels Airlines is now serving Kigali, one time a week, at least till end of the summer IATA season.

It seems that flights to Bujumbura are suspended, at least till the end of Sept20. Bookings are open in Oct20

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sn26567 wrote: 13 Jul 2020, 12:06 Brussels Airlines will operate some of the long-haul flights of Lufthansa's Ocean concept, starting with Frankfurt-Windhoek in September.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... k-namibia/
Landing at Windheoek

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=sav ... 7831976188

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