Social actions at air traffic control service skeyes (Belgium) - possible air traffic disruptions

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Re: Social actions at air traffic control service skeyes (Belgium) - possible air traffic disruptions

Post by 737MAX » 15 Apr 2019, 19:08

People who participated in this topic have different views on the issues at skeyes. But we all agree on one point; this should stop.

What is currently being made within skeyes to stop this mess?

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Re: Social actions at air traffic control service skeyes (Belgium) - possible air traffic disruptions

Post by TLspotting » 15 Apr 2019, 20:42

SR20 wrote:
15 Apr 2019, 18:46
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A1276/19 NOTAMN
Q) EBBU/QSCLC/IV/NBO/E /000/245/5029N00411E999
A) EBBU B) 1904152200 C) 1904160400
E) BRUSSELS ACC CLSD DUE TO STAFF SHORTAGE. EMERG FREQ ARE WATCHED
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Re: Social actions at air traffic control service skeyes (Belgium) - possible air traffic disruptions

Post by Airbus330lover » 15 Apr 2019, 21:35

Can the military staff be involved ?
This mess must stop

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Post by TLspotting » 15 Apr 2019, 21:37

Airbus330lover wrote:
15 Apr 2019, 21:35
Can the military staff be involved ?
This mess must stop
Military ops are operational via Belga Radar (but is it limited to office hours?)
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Post by TLspotting » 15 Apr 2019, 22:59

Brussels Airport announced via social media that their flights between 23:30 and 08:00 are impacted (while restriction is between 00:00 and 06:00)
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Re: Social actions at air traffic control service skeyes (Belgium) - possible air traffic disruptions

Post by Passenger » 15 Apr 2019, 23:00

sn26567 wrote:
01 Apr 2019, 23:30
I confirm my previous statement: it looks like sabotage of Liege Airport.
Tonights' strike: 18 passenger flights and 32 cargo flights affected at Brussels Airport.

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Post by TLspotting » 15 Apr 2019, 23:03

Brussels Airport announced via social media that their flights between 23:30 and 08:00 are impacted (while restriction is between 00:00 and 06:00).
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Post by nordikcam » 15 Apr 2019, 23:26

TLspotting wrote:
15 Apr 2019, 23:03
Brussels Airport announced via social media that their flights between 23:30 and 08:00 are impacted (while restriction is between 00:00 and 06:00).
I am always surprised that doctors are entering this type of game. It will be said that society is evolving ... I have not left BRU for some time ... but I was coming back again. I'll have to change my tune! Which country ! The controllers should travel a little ... and go to Africa, Venezuela, Cuba, Laos to name a few countries from where I come back! :roll:

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Re: Social actions at air traffic control service skeyes (Belgium) - possible air traffic disruptions

Post by SR20 » 15 Apr 2019, 23:54

I was told the reason of tonight's 6 hours airspace closure is because there is no supervisor available for the night shift.

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Post by sn26567 » 16 Apr 2019, 00:22

SR20 wrote:
15 Apr 2019, 23:54
I was told the reason of tonight's 6 hours airspace closure is because there is no supervisor available for the night shift.
Which means that one single person can block a whole country for one night!
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Re: Social actions at air traffic control service skeyes (Belgium) - possible air traffic disruptions

Post by AIRMARSHAL » 16 Apr 2019, 01:43

how many pax flights did divert to CGN ?

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Post by sn26567 » 16 Apr 2019, 09:09

AIRMARSHAL wrote:
16 Apr 2019, 01:43
how many pax flights did divert to CGN ?
Two: the SN flights from Hurghada and Malaga.
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Post by Acid-drop » 16 Apr 2019, 10:07

Economic disaster in LGG, the PR says.
50 flights impacted last night alone.
But the damage on the image is a lot bigger
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Post by sn26567 » 16 Apr 2019, 11:09

Belgian airspace has become similar to that of a banana republic. And authorities seem to accept the fact without reacting, except in the Walloon region, which cannot do anything as it is bound by the agreement between the federal government, the regional governments and skeyes.

Why couldn't Liege Airport rely on foreign air navigation service providers to allow traffic coming from the East?
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Re: Social actions at air traffic control service skeyes (Belgium) - possible air traffic disruptions

Post by nordikcam » 16 Apr 2019, 11:17

Do we have a Minister...? Bellot, no ?


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Post by Acid-drop » 16 Apr 2019, 11:34

Can anyone ping this guy on twitter or something ?
Cant journalist do their work ?
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Re: Social actions at air traffic control service skeyes (Belgium) - possible air traffic disruptions

Post by Airbus330lover » 16 Apr 2019, 13:00

sn26567 wrote:
16 Apr 2019, 11:09
Belgian airspace has become similar to that of a banana republic. And authorities seem to accept the fact without reacting, except in the Walloon region, which cannot do anything as it is bound by the agreement between the federal government, the regional governments and skeyes.

Why couldn't Liege Airport rely on foreign air navigation service providers to allow traffic coming from the East?
Could be easy with the help of the germans.

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Post by jan_olieslagers » 16 Apr 2019, 13:28

Can anyone ping this guy on twitter or something ?
Cant journalist do their work ?
Myself am looking at parliament, rather. At least in theory, it is a task of the parliament to keep an eye on government.

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