Today sunny weather in Belgium
An E-3A from NATO based at Geilinkirchen during an operational patrol
Grtzz Dirk
BTW happy new year to all of you!
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Inderdeed, Dirk some nice weather on January 4, but please continue in English.
Here a small grip:
1419: very recognizable bird of Martinair: PH-MCU full of roses heading SE.
1205: another MD11 of Martinair, the presence of windows (+ACAR) identified it as PH-MCP heading SE.
1604: Lauda Air B767-300 OE-LAX cruising W wards.
1610: a late evening shot of Biman A310-300, heading for the UK.
Here a small grip:
1419: very recognizable bird of Martinair: PH-MCU full of roses heading SE.
1205: another MD11 of Martinair, the presence of windows (+ACAR) identified it as PH-MCP heading SE.
1604: Lauda Air B767-300 OE-LAX cruising W wards.
1610: a late evening shot of Biman A310-300, heading for the UK.
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Very interesting shot of the SIA A345! I haven't spotted an overflying SQ A345 yet...
About two weeks ago, I spotted the EK201 DXB-JFK flying into the direction of KOK, a first as well for me.
By the way: http://www.antonakis.co.uk/acars.php?page=request is an excellent resource to tie up registrations if you have the flight number.
A pity that there are so many clouds today, as TC-JNB (TK's latest A332) was due LHR this morning.
@Skystef: I saw OE-LAX as well on 04JAN, it was routing VIE-VRA-HOG.
Regards
Frederic
About two weeks ago, I spotted the EK201 DXB-JFK flying into the direction of KOK, a first as well for me.
By the way: http://www.antonakis.co.uk/acars.php?page=request is an excellent resource to tie up registrations if you have the flight number.
A pity that there are so many clouds today, as TC-JNB (TK's latest A332) was due LHR this morning.
@Skystef: I saw OE-LAX as well on 04JAN, it was routing VIE-VRA-HOG.
Regards
Frederic
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Hi pipodeclown,
That's very well possible; I only mentioned KOK to give everybody an idea of the direction of the aircraft.
You seem to know a lot of waypoints etc, do you know where I can find a list of those in and surrounding Belgium (perhaps with a map)?
Thanks
Frederic
That's very well possible; I only mentioned KOK to give everybody an idea of the direction of the aircraft.
You seem to know a lot of waypoints etc, do you know where I can find a list of those in and surrounding Belgium (perhaps with a map)?
Thanks
Frederic
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Thx for info Fred, concerning OE-LAX.
Saw a couple of times the SIA A340-500 cruising E, has perhaps something to do with the position of the jetstream.
I even made a photo of this Airbus on October 20 2005, also 9V-SGA en route EWR-SIA.
In general I dislike pictures with opposite light, so do not make lots of efforts picturing the planes cruising towards the East, unless the contrail self or airplane is of interest.
The best shots are with backlight and in my area they are planes cruising to the WNW.
Especially with the Emirates, practise is possible as more than a dozen are passing.
How close can U get? Perhaps this close, taken on January 8 around 1200LT.
A few minutes earlier a Cargolux with a contrail is special to me as usually to low to see damp.
Saw a couple of times the SIA A340-500 cruising E, has perhaps something to do with the position of the jetstream.
I even made a photo of this Airbus on October 20 2005, also 9V-SGA en route EWR-SIA.
In general I dislike pictures with opposite light, so do not make lots of efforts picturing the planes cruising towards the East, unless the contrail self or airplane is of interest.
The best shots are with backlight and in my area they are planes cruising to the WNW.
Especially with the Emirates, practise is possible as more than a dozen are passing.
How close can U get? Perhaps this close, taken on January 8 around 1200LT.
A few minutes earlier a Cargolux with a contrail is special to me as usually to low to see damp.
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Hi ,
Fighter aircraft like the F-16 can make contrails!
I'm an air defence controller in the BAF and last week a pilot told me during the debriefing that the F-16s were having conrails as from FL200, (this depends from day to day)
When I did my backseat, I took this schot when we passed 2 other F-16s during a CAP mission (combat air patrol) They were having contrail as well http://www.voortmansdirk.be/fotosvd/contrails.jpg
Most of the time the fighters try to stay below the contrail level because this is not very tactical, you can see other jets with contrails from over 30NM when you are in the sky... And as a fighter you don't want to be seen.
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Fighter aircraft like the F-16 can make contrails!
I'm an air defence controller in the BAF and last week a pilot told me during the debriefing that the F-16s were having conrails as from FL200, (this depends from day to day)
When I did my backseat, I took this schot when we passed 2 other F-16s during a CAP mission (combat air patrol) They were having contrail as well http://www.voortmansdirk.be/fotosvd/contrails.jpg
Most of the time the fighters try to stay below the contrail level because this is not very tactical, you can see other jets with contrails from over 30NM when you are in the sky... And as a fighter you don't want to be seen.
Grtzz Dirk
www.voortmansdirk.be
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Nice pictures again guys!!
Really cool the SQ 345 , I would guess SQ operates the SIN-EWR route over the Pacific via LAX Isn't that less far? Anyway , I'd really like to see THAT one , but I'm not on the good location I'm afraid .
Did saw another ANA All Nippon Airways B747-400 enrouting NRT-CDG. But it's only the usual traffic.
Looking forward to the next bright day.
Best regards: Yannick
Nice pictures again guys!!
Really cool the SQ 345 , I would guess SQ operates the SIN-EWR route over the Pacific via LAX Isn't that less far? Anyway , I'd really like to see THAT one , but I'm not on the good location I'm afraid .
Did saw another ANA All Nippon Airways B747-400 enrouting NRT-CDG. But it's only the usual traffic.
Looking forward to the next bright day.
Best regards: Yannick
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Guys, girls,
SIN-EWR SQ 22 is most likely flown over the pacific.
EWR-SIN SQ21 is most likely flown over the atlantic.
I've never seen reports SQ22 flying overhead Europe. SQ21 is normally flying higher North than Belgium.
Flying Eastward means full advantage of the jetstream. This is far more important than choosing the shortest distance. Following the jetstream means that the actual flown distance decreases. If you fly Westbound(against the jet), your actual distance will increase.
Depending on the position of the stream, the routing is chosen. Be aware that many factors come into play when choosing the optimal routing for a long flight! This can save huge amounts of fuel (=money)!!
Bruspotter: You can see it passing from Oevel, just look at the contrails South of you! It might be difficult with the backlight, of course!
Mind your English: I always see you writing: 'did saw'. It is 'did see'! Did + "present infinitive"
Pipodeclown
SIN-EWR SQ 22 is most likely flown over the pacific.
EWR-SIN SQ21 is most likely flown over the atlantic.
I've never seen reports SQ22 flying overhead Europe. SQ21 is normally flying higher North than Belgium.
Flying Eastward means full advantage of the jetstream. This is far more important than choosing the shortest distance. Following the jetstream means that the actual flown distance decreases. If you fly Westbound(against the jet), your actual distance will increase.
Depending on the position of the stream, the routing is chosen. Be aware that many factors come into play when choosing the optimal routing for a long flight! This can save huge amounts of fuel (=money)!!
Bruspotter: You can see it passing from Oevel, just look at the contrails South of you! It might be difficult with the backlight, of course!
Mind your English: I always see you writing: 'did saw'. It is 'did see'! Did + "present infinitive"
Pipodeclown