BRU 13/06/2021 AF1

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AK01
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BRU 13/06/2021 AF1

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For those who have not seen the Airforce 1 yet, President Biden is due in Brussels in the evening of the 13th to spent a night in Brussels.

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Re: BRU 13/06/2021 AF1

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Hello,

According to my info,

Joe Biden will arrive in Brussels on the 13th. Arrival expected at 5:50 p.m. and 6:00 p.m. respectively from London

He should spend the night of 13 - 14 in Brussels, as well as the night of 14 - 15 because several things to do on the 14th and 15th (see here viewtopic.php?f=7&t=72304&p=408533#p408533)

I do not yet have any information on his departure but it could be on the 15th in the afternoon or in the evening or then on the 16th in the morning. He should leave for Geneva where he must meet Vladimir Poutine there ! (not confirmed by Geneva)

:!: :!: Please take his information with a grain of salt, these are only guesses but all that can change at any time !! The last days before his arrival will be there to confirm or not the information. :!: :!:

Samuel,
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Re: BRU 13/06/2021 AF1

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Samuel Zerilli wrote: 07 Jun 2021, 21:42 Hello,

According to my info,

Joe Biden will arrive in Brussels on the 13th. Arrival expected at 5:50 p.m. and 6:00 p.m. respectively from London

He should spend the night of 13 - 14 in Brussels, as well as the night of 14 - 15 because several things to do on the 14th and 15th (see here viewtopic.php?f=7&t=72304&p=408533#p408533)

I do not yet have any information on his departure but it could be on the 15th in the afternoon or in the evening or then on the 16th in the morning. He should leave for Geneva where he must meet Vladimir Poutine there ! (not confirmed by Geneva)

:!: :!: Please take his information with a grain of salt, these are only guesses but all that can change at any time !! The last days before his arrival will be there to confirm or not the information. :!: :!:

Samuel,
So those times are your personal guesses? And why two times? Is a second VC-25 also due?

From what I heard departure to GVA will be on the afternoon of the 15th.

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Re: BRU 13/06/2021 AF1

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RudiMD11 wrote: 07 Jun 2021, 21:56
Samuel Zerilli wrote: 07 Jun 2021, 21:42
So those times are your personal guesses? And why two times? Is a second VC-25 also due?

From what I heard departure to GVA will be on the afternoon of the 15th.
No it's not invented hours, I never share information that I invent ;). And if two hours ago it means both come ;) It is quite rare that the president travels with only one. One is AF1 and the other SAMXXX To avoid knowing where he is.
But as said before everything can change at any time
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Re: BRU 13/06/2021 AF1

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Samuel Zerilli wrote: 07 Jun 2021, 22:11
RudiMD11 wrote: 07 Jun 2021, 21:56
Samuel Zerilli wrote: 07 Jun 2021, 21:42
So those times are your personal guesses? And why two times? Is a second VC-25 also due?

From what I heard departure to GVA will be on the afternoon of the 15th.
No it's not invented hours, I never share information that I invent ;). And if two hours ago it means both come ;) It is quite rare that the president travels with only one. One is AF1 and the other SAMXXX To avoid knowing where he is.
But as said before everything can change at any time
Copy that! Thanks a lot for the info! Btw the last time the US president was at BRU he did not have a second VC-25 with him. There were however two C-32's, an E-4 and a couple of C-17's.

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Re: BRU 13/06/2021 AF1

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i think even a VC25 needs some maintenance every now and then.

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Re: BRU 13/06/2021 AF1

Post by François Mathelart »

On 24th of may 2017, both VC-25A arrived at +/- 7 minutes interval.(92-9000 first)

FM

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Great info, thx for sharing!

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Post by xavier262 »

Hello,

By the way, the parking position may the same that on 2017 ? And if we see the weather forecast for sunday rwy 01 may be used. Do you think that AF1 land on 01?
Thanks

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xavier262 wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 11:01 Hello,

By the way, the parking position may the same that on 2017 ? And if we see the weather forecast for sunday rwy 01 may be used. Do you think that AF1 land on 01?
Thanks
I wouldn't exclude RWY07L either. The last few weeks, aircraft would land there as well with winds coming from the (North-)East.

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My bet would be on 7L if the forecast stays the same (winds from east-north-east) but i'd keep the car close to me because its still a risk

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GLAviation wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 13:01 My bet would be on 7L if the forecast stays the same (winds from east-north-east) but i'd keep the car close to me because its still a risk
And also Yuqu12 thanks for your answer

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Re: BRU 13/06/2021 AF1

Post by Homo Aeroportus »

François Mathelart wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 08:43 On 24th of may 2017, both VC-25A arrived at +/- 7 minutes interval.(92-9000 first)

FM
So I guess POTUS is on board the second VC-25 or does the Secret Service bet that the bad guys know there is a second aircraft arriving 7 minutes later ? :?

H.A.

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Homo Aeroportus wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 17:21
François Mathelart wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 08:43 On 24th of may 2017, both VC-25A arrived at +/- 7 minutes interval.(92-9000 first)

FM
So I guess POTUS is on board the second VC-25 or does the Secret Service bet that the bad guys know there is a second aircraft arriving 7 minutes later ? :?

H.A.

Precisely nobody knows ! Hence the fact that there are two planes. It is made to "dupe" the potential terrorist who would like to attack it. In 1 of the two are Joe Biden and in the other are people but less "important"..

He arrives with about 5-10 minutes after or before because if there is an attack on one of the two the other knows how to deviate his trajectory.

Samuel,
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Post by Homo Aeroportus »

I say again : you can fool the bad guys only if they KNOW there are two aircraft arriving.
Therefore, unless they are informed in advance, the first one to arrive will get the shot. Hence POTUS had better be in the second one.

Arriving simultaneously and landing on different runways will make things harder.

But if the bad guys read aviation24.be they will know ... that they don't know. ;)

H.A.

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Homo Aeroportus wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 17:52 I say again : you can fool the bad guys only if they KNOW there are two aircraft arriving.
Therefore, unless they are informed in advance, the first one to arrive will get the shot. Hence POTUS had better be in the second one.

Arriving simultaneously and landing on different runways will make things harder.

But if the bad guys read aviation24.be they will know ... that they don't know. ;)

H.A.
They tend to fly the second VC-25A as a spare. As for the paralell approaches that's pointless as most european airports doesn't meet the separation requirements for paralell ops. And many others have single runway ops.

Rgds

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Spooky wrote: 08 Jun 2021, 19:19

They tend to fly the second VC-25A as a spare. As for the paralell approaches that's pointless as most european airports doesn't meet the separation requirements for paralell ops. And many others have single runway ops.

Rgds
Welcome on board aviation24.be Spooky.

Agreed for the backup reason. I'm sure that they prefer to rely on IR counter measures, decoys and jammers to stay safe.

H.A.

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During the weekend of 12 and 13 June (and maybe also Monday the 14th) we can also expect some other rare visitors like a Canadian Government A310, Turkish Government A330 or B748BBJ, etc.

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Post by Jeremy De Winter »

AF1 on it's way to the UK. Seems to only be the 82-8000 and no 92-9000. https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=adfdf8

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Re: BRU 13/06/2021 AF1

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Jeremy De Winter wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 16:07 AF1 on it's way to the UK. Seems to only be the 82-8000 and no 92-9000. https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=adfdf8
Inbound Mildenhall , thnx to @fightercontrol.

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