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Where planes able to land at the heliport in Brussels?

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I came across this picture:

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Br 941-01 en approche pour l'héliport de Bruxelles-Allée Verte
17 octobre 1963. http://perso.orange.fr/amis.breguet/1955_1967.htm
So, stol planes where able to land and lift off again at the heliport? Must have been a spectacular sight ...

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Hello

Indeed that must be spectacular for sure!!! :shock: Do you also know where the heliport was situated somewhere in Brussels?

btw: never seen that plane before :D


Best regards: Yannick ;)

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I did some research and found this website > http://aerostories.free.fr/appareils/Br941/page2.html

The same picture can be found here too. But it states that the picture has been made in France. More precise in Paris near Issy-les-Moulineaux.

In the same article I found there were plans to start an airbridge between Paris city and Brussels city. Some statements >

Hence began a series of spectacular demonstrations, proving that this "miracle airplane" could land anywhere; in clearings, at the Issy-les-Moulineaux heliport located at the Paris city limits, on an avenue, in the center of town in Brussels, in a field adjoining the Turboméca industrial plant, at Bordes, etc…

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In 1964, tests had been conducted with the goal of establishing a line between the heliports of Paris Issy-les-Moulineaux and Brussels Allée-Verte.
Best Regards Raymond

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Bruspotter wrote: Do you also know where the heliport was situated somewhere in Brussels?
The heliport was situated at the end of l'Allée Verte, between the Quai de Willebroeck, the Boulevard Baudouin and the ... Avenue de l'Héliport, where is now the Parc Maximilien.(Corner N-W of the Pentagon). It's not far from the North Station.
The picture could well be there, with the cranes next to the canal, and perhaps the buildings on the avenue de l'Héliport. It's hard to say, the surroundings have much changed since then.
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the cranes next to the canal?

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Citroen, yes.
the cranes next to the canal?

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And the long chimneys?

You got the picture from this site?

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I have just been on site this morning (under the rain !).
The first picture of this topic was taken on the Allée Verte, on the part of it which runs between the Quai de Willebroeck and the avenue de l'Héliport. The house between the two industrial chimneys is at the corner of Rue Masui.
The cranes don't exist anymore; they were near the Pont des Armateurs.
It seems the Bréguet was to land on a small strip of concrete just north of the héliport.

Here are the two main remaining buildings : the high one on the right, and the one at the corner of the Rue Masui; the high chimneys are gone.

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The cranes were on the left ; we are looking to the north, in the axis of the Bréguet approach.

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The heliport was in front of the firemen's old barracks (right), that we can see on the pics of SN30952. The heliport place has been made into a park (left)

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Can we determine the time window of this landing?

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The 4-engine aircraft might be a Brequet of the Société des Ateliers d'Aviation Louis Breguet?
A Breguet 941? a French four engined STOL
Can someone tell when this type was built, so we can determine the time window of this landing?
Introduction 1967
Retired 1974?

Do you think such aircraft would have received the authorisation to land there in that time window?

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Re: Can we determine the time window of this landing?

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SN30952 wrote:The 4-engine aircraft might be a Brequet of the Société des Ateliers d'Aviation Louis Breguet?
A Breguet 941? a French four engined STOL
Can someone tell when this type was built, so we can determine the time window of this landing?
Introduction 1967
Retired 1974?

Do you think such aircraft would have received the authorisation to land there in that time window?
landing according to the site: 17 octobre 1963

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Re: Can we determine the time window of this landing?

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blackhawk wrote:landing according to the site: 17 octobre 1963
What aircraft type is it then?

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What aircraft type is it then?
:arrow: Breguet 941,

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Re: Can we determine the time window of this landing?

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SN30952 wrote:
blackhawk wrote:landing according to the site: 17 octobre 1963
What aircraft type is it then?
Br 941-01

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Re: Can we determine the time window of this landing?

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blackhawk wrote:
SN30952 wrote:
blackhawk wrote:landing according to the site: 17 octobre 1963
What aircraft type is it then?
Br 941-01
Follow my link: En 1964, des essais avaient été effectués en vue d'établir une ligne aérienne entre les héliports de Paris-Issy les Moulineaux et Bruxelles-Allée verte. (Much clearer picture, and read the caption carefully)
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L'avion à aile soufflée.

But the text reads: comme ici à Issy-les-Moulineaux.
Issy-les-Moulineaux est une ville française, dans le département des Hauts-de-Seine (région Île-de-France), au sud-ouest de la capitale, aux Portes de Paris et en bordure de la Seine.

Héliport de Paris - Issy-les-Moulineaux Image
code IATA : JDP code OACI : LFPI

gestionnaire:
Aéroports de Paris :
291, bd Raspail - 75675 Paris Cedex 14
tél : 01 43 35 70 00

administration:
Directeur de l'héliport : M. LE MERDY
tél : 01 45 54 89 26

RENDEZ-VOUS
If you watch the last stage of de Tour de France, the itinerary will come close to that place next Sunday.

The photographer should take his camera here, click next to the black square PARIS:
# Latitude: 48° 50' 00" N
# Longitude: 002° 16' 22" E

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