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India retires Cold War spy MiGs

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A spokesman said the last of the IAF's four surviving MiG-25s will be phased out of service on 1 May.
(BBC)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4892524.stm

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There are other reasons behind this phasing.
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Advisor wrote:There are other reasons behind this phasing.
And which?

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n5528p wrote:
Advisor wrote:There are other reasons behind this phasing.
And which?

Bernhard
The IAF has phased them out because the IAF now has unmanned aerial vehicles with aerostat radars :cry:

Imagine they are phasing them out because they now have better reconnaissance platforms, access to satellite imagery, and other such tactical measures.

We shall miss them. But not to worry......You can still see them at the IAF Museum at PAlam and the other one will be off to Dindigul at the Air Force Academy.

Some Interesting Specifications Of the MiG-25.

:arrow: It weighs more than 30 tonnes.
:idea: Category is High Altitude Strategic Reconnaissance.
:!: The IAF was very possessive of these planes and even had a postal stamp to the effect.
:wink: These planes could fly at stratospheric levels to take photographs of quality.
8) They were called FOXBAT in NATO parlence.
:lol: Were delivered to India in 1981.
:o Were under the aegis of the 106 Squadron in Bareilly also called as Trisonics.
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I have some more specs :


- The plane was made of steel alloy and almost completely welded (70 %)
- welding was done by hand , thats where the name come from, mig welding
- The plane was so heavy, at 64,200 pounds, that Soviet designers had to eliminate a pilot ejection system
- Transistor circuitry was not used but instead the Soviets relied on high tech vacuum tubes for most of their electronics. this could mean only one thing, i could be used to drop nuclear weapons, they were less susceptible to radiation (for example, EMP) in case of nuclear warfare.
- Pilots were forbidden to exceed Mach 2.5, engines burns up at mach 2.8
- Soviet air crews nicknamed the MiG-25 "the Flying Restaurant," because the jet used an alcohol-based hydraulic fluid. Alcoholism is a major problem in Russia, and oftentimes, the air crews would drain and drink the alcohol-based hydraulic fluid


if you want to fly it, you can !!!

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you must be joking or just testing if we are carefully reading the replies.
I thought everybody was aware about the abreviation MIG to come from Mikoyan-Gurevich.
Mig welding is something different : Metal Inert Gas.
And it is not strange that a plane that was build in the 70'ies, beginning '80ies, was welded by hand instead of by robot. We talk about +- 100 airframes a year, 30 years ago. The Lada's in the USSR were also welded by hand.
If you would be a student at a tecnical college I suggest you repeat this year because you didn't get the basics of your study. If you would be a professional welder I suggest you apply for a job at McDonnalds. I would not like to be in the neighbourhood of a gas tank been welded by you.

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Yes regi,

I was joking about the MIG welding, I know what MIG and TIG welding is, like I performed it before some years ago at school, but I was reading somewhere that welders of the mig-25 are really specialist, because there was a very difficult advanced technique developed to avoid cracks.

And yes, I past my years at a technical school, and a lot of other exams and type ratings, like I work now as a professional Certifying
Aircraft mechanic.

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The EMP part is also quite strange....

:arrow: McDonalds :?:

Regards, Bernhard

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More info about Nuclear Weapon EMP Effects :

http://www.fas.org/nuke/intro/nuke/emp.htm



Lt. Viktor Belenko's defection to the West gave the United States the opportunity to closely examine the Mig-25. The aircraft was completely dismantled and then carefully inspected by aviation scientists and engineers from both Japan and the United States. Upon dismantling the Mig-25, the data was analyzed by the Foreign Technology Division of the Air Force at Dayton, Ohio.

These engineers were surprised that they didn't use transistor technology in the aircraft,first they tought it's a piece of junk metal, but a bit later they figure out that it could be used for nuclear warfare. And that It has a very good autoflight system and communication system to the ground, also the radar had an enormous power of about 500 kilowatts, allowing it to burn through hostile ECM, but requiring vast amounts of pure alcohol for cooling. Pilots were forbidden to engage the radar on the ground, and legend held that it was powerful enough to kill rabbits near runways.

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Bilboone wrote:Pilots were forbidden to engage the radar on the ground, and legend held that it was powerful enough to kill rabbits near runways.
Now there's an idea to prevent birdstrikes!

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Rabbits near runways ! This is the first ive heard :roll:
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The problem with rabbits (and hares, and mice for that matter) is that they in turn attract predatory birds. I just read how AMS keeps the grass around the runways at about 20cm, i.e. rather long, to discourage birds from landing in it. It has the side effect of attracting lots of mice, hares, and certain bird species. The mice in turn attract owls and daytime predators. Ecologically this is all very nice, less so for the airplanes though.

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Psychological problem about Belgian paratroopers guarding the inner perimeter at Zaventem is that they are not allowed to shoot at the rabbits who nibble some meters away from the inner road.
The troopers are also not allowed to walk on the grass. So, they let some steam off at the traffic signs with combat knives .
But some rabbits play with the nerves too much, and end up as kebab.

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