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Fifth Freedom Flights in Europe

Post by cathay belgium » 10 Apr 2011, 13:32

Hi,

As we saw recently some members are up to fly special rare birds around europe with very
rare airliners for us in BRU.. as so called fifth freedom rights - routings.

We saw last week a very nice tripreport of a CDG-MAD with LanChile A340,
I read on a report on another aviation site about a MUN-MAN trip with SIA 777 and I remember
last winter United's flights BRU-LHR on B777.

Do other memebers know other lines wich are active right now or will be in the future and which are bookable offcourse ..
Nice to see/know and it can alert some members to prepare their occasionally rare flights..

THX

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Re: Fifth Freedom Flights in Europe

Post by FLYAIR10 » 10 Apr 2011, 13:37

Interesting topic. What is the policy of the Belgian gornment on granting or not granting fifth freedom rights to a foreign airline? Is this info available somewhere on the web?
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Re: Fifth Freedom Flights in Europe

Post by Sabena320 » 10 Apr 2011, 14:55

I've read somewhere about the possibility to book BRU-MXP and MXP-BRU flights in the future with ET 757. Don't know if it's true and when this will be possible.

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Re: Fifth Freedom Flights in Europe

Post by azingrew » 10 Apr 2011, 17:00

You can fly from CDG to Rome FCO with Kuwait Airways. Dep. 9.45 - arr. 11.55 KU 0166
on TU-WE-FR-SUN. Until October. Flight is operated with an AB6
I did it last year, Paid 160 € R/T. Quite exotic really..

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Re: Fifth Freedom Flights in Europe

Post by Maho Bay » 10 Apr 2011, 21:00

There is a similar topic on airliners.net: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forum ... n/5071513/.

FlyingAlex put everything together in this list:


SQ: MUC-MAN-MUC
SQ328 MUC-MAN 06:35 - 07:50 77W (Daily)
SQ327 MUC-MAN 09:10 - 12:15 77W (Daily)

LA: MAD-FRA-MAD
LA704 MAD-FRA 15:15 - 17:55 340 (Daily except We)
LA705 FRA-MAD 19:40 - 22:25 340 (Daily except We)

LA: MAD-CDG-MAD
LA723 MAD-CDG 15:30 - 17:35 340 (WeFrSu)
LA722 CDG-MAD 19:40 - 21:55 340 (WeFrSu)

KU: FCO-CDG-FCO
KU165 FCO-CDG 16:55-19:05 AB6 (MoSa)
KU165 FCO-CDG 16:55-19:05 340 (TuTh)
KU166 CDG-FCO 09:45-11:55 AB6 (TuSu)
KU166 CDG-FCO 09:45-11:55 340 (WeFr)

KU: FRA-GVA-FRA
KU177 FRA-GVA 15:10-16:15 340 (WeFr)
KU178 GVA-FRA 11:45-12:55 340 (Th)
KU178 GVA-FRA 09:00-10:05 340 (Sa)

ET: FCO-ARN-FCO
ET702 FCO-ARN 06:50-10:00 757 (MoWeFrSa)
ET703 ARN-FCO 21:00-00:01 757 (MoWeFrSa)

OM: SVO-TXL-SVO
OM135 SVO-TXL 12:00-12:45 738 (ThSu)
OM136 TXL-SVO 14:00-18:30 738 (ThSu)

EK: LCA-MLA-LCA
EK107 LCA-MLA 12:15-14:10 332 (Daily)
EK108 MLA-LCA 15:45-19:10 332 (Daily)

CA: MUC-ATH-MUC (begins 11 May)
CA961 MUC-ATH 06:55-10:30 330 (Daily)
CA962 ATH-MUC 11:30-12:55 330 (Daily)

KE: MAD-AMS (as part of an ICN-MAD-AMS-ICN triangle)
KE926 MAD-AMS 09:30-12:00 772 (TuThSa)

KE: VIE-ZRH (as part of an ICN-VIE-ZRH-ICN triangle)
KE935 VIE-ZRH 18:45-20:05 772 (TuThSu)

PK: OSL-CPH (as part of a LHE-OSL-CPH-LHE triangle)
PK752 OSL-CPH 16:10-17:40 772 (We)

PK: CPH-OSL (as part of an ISB-CPH-OSL-ISB triangle)
PK772 CPH-OSL 17:40-19:00 77W (Sa)

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Re: Fifth Freedom Flights in Europe

Post by cathay belgium » 10 Apr 2011, 22:05

Hi,

Nice list and overview !

Please keep this topic in mind and reply when new routings will start..

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Re: Fifth Freedom Flights in Europe

Post by sn26567 » 14 Apr 2011, 16:51

Out of topic, but interesting news anyway, showing that fifth freedom rights are not disappearing: Turkish Airlines has just been given fifth freedom rights for the Singapore-Jakarta leg of the daily Istanbul–Singapore–Jakarta route.
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Re: Fifth Freedom Flights in Europe

Post by The Wolf » 07 Aug 2017, 01:53

Just took LA705 FRA-MAD.
I fly intra-EU in J quite a lot due to the fact it is always in connection with a longhaul J or F - but of course in 99.9% of the cases it generally sucks and consists of a Y seat with seatblocking and some amenities nobody really needs (unless on busy days as a non-status pax).
But wow - this is something else! 787, flatbed, full service - and cheap as well!

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Re: Fifth Freedom Flights in Europe

Post by quixoticguide » 07 Aug 2017, 11:40

The Wolf wrote:
07 Aug 2017, 01:53
Just took LA705 FRA-MAD.
I fly intra-EU in J quite a lot due to the fact it is always in connection with a longhaul J or F - but of course in 99.9% of the cases it generally sucks and consists of a Y seat with seatblocking and some amenities nobody really needs (unless on busy days as a non-status pax).
But wow - this is something else! 787, flatbed, full service - and cheap as well!
Yes, the Latam flight is pretty nice and cheap.
Visit my flights on: http://www.quixoticguide.com

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