MD-XX?

globetrotter · Post by **globetrotter** » 17 Nov 2005, 14:58

The twin engined derivative of the MD-11 http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairl ... d=00006105

vc-10 · Post by **vc-10** » 17 Nov 2005, 16:01

McDD oridgianlly planed a DC-10 twin, it looked like the A310. I shall see if I can dig out a pic.

Sikiri · Post by **Sikiri** » 17 Nov 2005, 18:51

McDonnel Douglas even planned a plane they called the MD-XX. The artist impression shows a 3 engine type design with approx 350/400 pax.

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/mdc/96-221.html

and a site with an artist impression:

http://www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRheft/ ... R9612f.htm

PS: Nice to read the rumors of 9 years ago: Will Airbus buy Douglas?

Buzz · Post by **Buzz** » 17 Nov 2005, 19:36

Surprised no-one brought up the MD12, the goodlooking brother of the A380...

http://www.e-kolekcjoner.pl/k/km/106.jpg

regi · Post by **regi** » 17 Nov 2005, 20:16

and so on.

vc-10 · Post by **vc-10** » 18 Nov 2005, 16:05

I think I am the only person on the planet who thinks this, but the MD-12 is ugly.

Ovostar · Post by **Ovostar** » 21 Nov 2005, 16:38

i don't see a lot of differecnces with the A380... appart from the winglets.

bigjulie · Post by **bigjulie** » 26 Nov 2005, 21:10

I agree with vc-10, the MD-12 is ugly :pukey:

Boeing747-867 · Post by **Boeing747-867** » 27 Nov 2005, 11:04

A MD12 with 787-like composites can be much lighter than an A380 (if a
748 is lighter than an A330 then a MD12 can be as light as an A340/777),
which makes it an efficient and effective competitor to A380.

chornedsnorkack · Post by **chornedsnorkack** » 28 Nov 2005, 09:27

How well were the features of MD-12 frozen before it was abandoned?

MD-12 seems to be smaller and stubbier than any A380 so far. Had 2-4-2 on upper deck like A380 and 3-5-3 on lower. A380 probably can have 3-5-3 and will have 3-5-3 in this winter... So similar cross-sections

But smaller - I remember around 60 m long, 60 m wingspan. That means, somewhat longer than B747SP.

Narrow wingspan and short fuselage might make MD-12 light. Especially if the fuselage is light and weak... lighter than, say, Airbus 380SP or Airbus 380-600.

But Airbus also is designing A350 with similar but different cross-section to 300/310/330/340, lighter materials and new wing.

Could Airbus produce Airbus 390-600, with a fuselage cross-section based on 380, but made lighter by use of 350 materials, and a smaller wing?