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by oldblueeyes
19 Oct 2023, 16:29
Forum: Latest aviation news
Topic: Brussels Airlines in 2023
Replies: 497
Views: 323533

Re: Brussels Airlines in 2023

With respect to its size, SN is undergoing a heavy growth program, if we compare in like for like figures. The roll over of the former long haul fleet added approx 50 Seats /Aricraft. And 2 more are in the pipeline. Once there will be enpugh 789 in FRA and some 346 transferred from MUC to FRA as wel...
by oldblueeyes
19 Oct 2023, 10:23
Forum: Latest aviation news
Topic: Brussels Airlines in 2023
Replies: 497
Views: 323533

Re: Brussels Airlines in 2023

So what did you expected? SN has it's own niche within the group and serves it. The bread and butter business is short haul and there is a need to execute there a ramp up of pax volumes to an all 320 fleet to be able to afford all investments related to new NEO's. With ITA there will be a new player...
by oldblueeyes
13 Oct 2023, 15:06
Forum: Latest aviation news
Topic: Brussels Airlines in 2023
Replies: 497
Views: 323533

Re: Brussels Airlines in 2023

So guys, what's the point here? If one of you does not like that SN is flying to NYC instead of landing in whatever bush, feel free to switch. If you find it horrible, do not care - no one is forced to get an unwanted product. Running an airline is a business and companies make rational judgement in...
by oldblueeyes
27 Sep 2023, 14:26
Forum: Latest aviation news
Topic: Brussels Airlines in 2023
Replies: 497
Views: 323533

Re: Brussels Airlines in 2023

Pretty simple. If we try to compare like-for-like, we should look first at sector length. The average European short haul sector corresponds to distances served rather by regional jets in the US. WE can argue than if 1,5 Seats in a 320 cabin gives the same comfort feeling as a business seat in a CRJ...
by oldblueeyes
25 Sep 2023, 12:05
Forum: Latest aviation news
Topic: Brussels Airlines in 2023
Replies: 497
Views: 323533

Re: Brussels Airlines in 2023

Well, Let's try to be fair and see the realities. The US is geographically still a much larger market than Europe. And the average yields you pay for budget airlines in the US such as Southwest are far above the average ticket price one is paying for Ryanair and co. in Europe. The realities are simp...
by oldblueeyes
24 Sep 2023, 10:38
Forum: Latest aviation news
Topic: Brussels Airlines in 2023
Replies: 497
Views: 323533

Re: Brussels Airlines in 2023

Well, in a fair comparison the likely 1-2hours trip in the US would be with an Embraer 145 or a CRJ700 with a feeder regional airline.

The product is always following the average client of a brand- SN is operating in a heavy LCC environment with a Eurowingslike product.
by oldblueeyes
19 Sep 2023, 11:41
Forum: Latest aviation news
Topic: Air Belgium in 2023
Replies: 258
Views: 225400

Re: Air Belgium in 2023

There are three issues with the leisure idea: - SN is rather small, compared to the other hubs where a 2nd long haul brand is operating - the "leisure" brands LH has are a mix of leisure and routes with little business demand - eg a 30 seat business cabin instead of 45 or more plus first -...
by oldblueeyes
18 Sep 2023, 21:24
Forum: Latest aviation news
Topic: Air Belgium in 2023
Replies: 258
Views: 225400

Re: Air Belgium in 2023

https://air-cosmos.com/article/transport-aerien-air-belgium-arrete-son-activite-passagers-66264?utm_source=Sociallymap&utm_medium=Sociallymap&utm_campaign=Sociallymap According to this article, the 2 A330neos will go back to the lessors This might be actually an opportunity to open the door...
by oldblueeyes
18 Sep 2023, 21:21
Forum: Latest aviation news
Topic: Brussels Airlines in 2023
Replies: 497
Views: 323533

Re: Brussels Airlines in 2023

Now this is good news ! At the end of 2016 SN had only 9 aircraft for their long haul ops. When LH took 100% of the company it was clearly mentioned that SN was the Group champion on the African market and this enabled the fleet to grow up to 9 aircraft in 2023. This growth in the last 6 years, wit...
by oldblueeyes
18 Sep 2023, 17:41
Forum: Latest aviation news
Topic: Brussels Airlines in 2023
Replies: 497
Views: 323533

Re: Brussels Airlines in 2023

So how should this work? Assuming sombody would sign a contract to have at any time an aircraft available, this would come alongside with some costs. Despite that Air Belgium does not have the right aircraft - the 332 is to small and the 339 would be to expensive as a backup. Let's wait and see what...
by oldblueeyes
18 Sep 2023, 15:05
Forum: Latest aviation news
Topic: Air Belgium in 2023
Replies: 258
Views: 225400

Re: Air Belgium in 2023

Just a logic evolution.

The company does not have a feeding network and P2P without this works in Europe just in 2 large catchements - London and Paris.

All the rest - Norwegian, Level (from BCN), Eurowings decentral with 332 etc. didn't work.
by oldblueeyes
18 Sep 2023, 13:27
Forum: Latest aviation news
Topic: Brussels Airlines in 2023
Replies: 497
Views: 323533

Re: Brussels Airlines in 2023

And last but not least look at the destinations SN is flying : to what extend technical problems are not caused by the reality that in sub Saharan Africa you might not have the local skills, spare parts available and generally the infrastructure for state of the art aircraft? In those markets often...
by oldblueeyes
16 Sep 2023, 19:20
Forum: Latest aviation news
Topic: Brussels Airlines in 2023
Replies: 497
Views: 323533

Re: Brussels Airlines in 2023

Flying (long haul) on SN has become like playing the lottery. As long as LH refuses to invest in a decent (in size), modern long haul fleet for SN, these things will continue to happen and customers will run away. (in the meantime: 787's for OS, A350's for LX) (as for SN: "here's 1 extra 15-ye...
by oldblueeyes
14 Sep 2023, 15:58
Forum: Latest aviation news
Topic: Lufthansa from September 2023
Replies: 14
Views: 7265

Re: Lufthansa from September 2023

For me, the three-brand strategy remains difficult to understand, when Brussels Airlines, part of the very same Lufthansa Group, does all this with a single brand. This enables SN to use the same aircraft in the winter for business travellers and in the summer for holidaymakers. Lufthansa has plent...
by oldblueeyes
09 Sep 2023, 14:55
Forum: Latest aviation news
Topic: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal
Replies: 4567
Views: 2156059

Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

But SN was already flying to India under the embrella of LH. I don't think so. Brussels flew to Mumbai between March 2017 and January 2019... The question is rather... was it profitable? The public figures show for 2017 a mere EBIT of 15 Mio for SN. 2018 was no statement in the report, 2019 the ann...
by oldblueeyes
09 Sep 2023, 10:15
Forum: Latest aviation news
Topic: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal
Replies: 4567
Views: 2156059

Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

LH has a strong presence in India. They want us to fly to FRA/MUC and connect there on an LH flight (and vv). No competition allowed from SN. My two cents... The same applies if we speak about Africa and SN. And whilst for the Swiss customer SN is a downgrade, for the average SN customer LH or Swis...
by oldblueeyes
08 Sep 2023, 11:23
Forum: Latest aviation news
Topic: Lufthansa from September 2023
Replies: 14
Views: 7265

Re: Lufthansa from September 2023

Yes, according to the announcements all 8 remaining 380 shall be back. The fair question is to what extend the mess is driven by LH's decision and to what extend by supply issues of the manufacturers. - the 779 is the elephant in the room, with a target launch date in 2020 and optimistic outlook for...
by oldblueeyes
07 Sep 2023, 15:44
Forum: Latest aviation news
Topic: Lufthansa from September 2023
Replies: 14
Views: 7265

Re: Lufthansa from September 2023

Yes, both Discover and Edelweiss have a business class, the product is somehow similar to SN. With the new Allegris cabins for Swiss and LH there will be a clear differentiation here, as the main brands will be upgraded. Having several rumors allocating the used A350 LH has recently acquired to Edek...
by oldblueeyes
07 Sep 2023, 09:38
Forum: Latest aviation news
Topic: Lufthansa from September 2023
Replies: 14
Views: 7265

Re: Lufthansa from September 2023

The history is more complex and you have to look back many decades. Lufthansa had a leisure oriented brand - Condor. It was sold 20 years ago but it remained tied a little bit to LH as LH was offering feeder flights. As long as Condor was belonging to a travel group, there was no real competition. T...
by oldblueeyes
06 Sep 2023, 13:19
Forum: Latest aviation news
Topic: Brussels Airlines in 2023
Replies: 497
Views: 323533

Re: Brussels Airlines in 2023

For several weeks there have been rumors that Lufthansa has major expansion plans with Brussels Airlines for the coming years. According to rumors, there would eventually be a fleet of 15 A330s and up to 45 A320s. And again: I know, it's just rumours, so nothing is decided yet. Who knows more? I ca...