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Minister of Health De Block has pointed out that there will be digitalised "passenger locator forms" that people will have to fill in to enter Belgium, for contact tracing purposes. This is the current paper form. https://dofi.ibz.be/sites/dvzoe/FR/Documents/BELGIUM_PassengerLocatorForm.PD...

The 290 Million loan needs to be repaid within 6 years, the shares of SN will act as collateral.
Brand, Belgian identity, and growth guarantees.

At first glance, not a bad deal and a serious commitment of LH.
We'll see.

Rumors are that many SN staff signed up for the severance packages, some amounting to 6 digits and years worth of salary, but there is no money to pay for them, and that LH is waiting for money from the Belgian government to pay these severance jackpots. If true, it's time to shut down this clown s...

Rumors are that many SN staff signed up for the severance packages, some amounting to 6 digits and years worth of salary, but there is no money to pay for them, and that LH is waiting for money from the Belgian government to pay these severance jackpots. If true, it's time to shut down this clown sh...

The argumentation seems to be pretty much emotional. So what the scenarios? 1. Both parties align to an agreemt like in the other countries as well - as many as possible of the existing jobs will be saved; the downsside is that some local pride will have to be swallowed, but this happened to the Au...

So it looks like Belgium is offering Lufthansa version after version of a deal and Lufthansa is not taking any, only complaining about it through Vranckx and their PR people that the deal has to be structurally the same as the other deals, etc..., while Austria got a better deal. The Belgian governm...

SN cancels her plans for reactivating more planes from August onwards, due to financial problems (e.g. only 2 long haul instead of 5) They urgently need a deal between Lufthansa and the Belgian government It's going to rain vouchers. I ask again, why do they need a deal with the Belgian government ...

In the end, LH will have to take the deal that is on the table or give up their hopes of state aid and decide by themselves whether they want to recapitalize it or let it go insolvent. Those are the only 3 options for LH. I think that LH will recapitalize it in small bits to the bare minimum to kee...

In the end, LH will have to take the deal that is on the table or give up their hopes of state aid and decide by themselves whether they want to recapitalize it or let it go insolvent. Those are the only 3 options for LH. I think that LH will recapitalize it in small bits to the bare minimum to keep...

So, when's the next deadline?

Why can't Lufthansa just pump some of those 10 Billions they got and forget about Belgian state aid?

Why are these 290 millions so important?

LH has already set many deadlines and they have vanished into the rear view mirror without an issue. By the end of the 2nd week of May, by the end of May, by the end of June, and now by July 11th. LH has to realise that they are dealing with government, and government doesn't take deadlines from pri...

Deutsche Bank CEO says that they enjoyed the way working from home has worked so far, material reduction in travrl costs, considering implementing it permanently to cut travel costs, but also on real estate costs.

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Miljard euro extra voor eventuele tweede golf of voor steun aan Brussels Airlines De federale overheid zet een miljard euro extra opzij voor uitgaven die nodig zouden zijn mocht er een tweede golf van het coronavirus uitbreken. De Kamercommissie Begroting heeft daarvoor woensdagmorgen het licht op ...

Wire money from LH to SN. That's your solution. You talk about ethics, not real power struggles between two economic actors/entities. Pilots should not give that much salary, that much FT/DT restrictions and so on. But reality is : if you don't give in, you will be fired. So pilots accept the shitt...

VRT News reports that Lufthansa has written a letter to Belgium's prime minister Wilmès last week: "we do need a solution by 10th July. And it must be one that is in line with the agreements we have made in Austria and Switzerland". https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2020/07/08/deadline-brussel...

Completely shutting down air travel for passengers could maybe save some lives, at the expense of a heavy economical impact. On the other hand: smoking also kills a lot of people, but it's not forbidden. Neither is the use or selling of alcohol. Both products which aren't necessary (like air travel...

Completely shutting down air travel for passengers could maybe save some lives, at the expense of a heavy economical impact. On the other hand: smoking also kills a lot of people, but it's not forbidden. Neither is the use or selling of alcohol. Both products which aren't necessary (like air travel...

rwandan-flyer wrote: ↑06 Jul 2020, 15:21 We agrre, but you can't shut down ALL aviation, you kill the economy.

It's not a matter of we can or can't. We have to if we want companies, airlines included, to survive.

If we keep going this, governments are going to start failing.

I also want to highlight the risk of on-board-catering. Many people are becoming infected in food processing plans. One recent examples are the meat packing plants in Germany and the U.S. Your fruit salad or cold entrees may be prepared by infected individuals. From slicing the ham, rolling your sm...

I also want to highlight the risk of on-board-catering. Many people are becoming infected in food processing plans. One recent examples are the meat packing plants in Germany and the U.S. Your fruit salad or cold entrees may be prepared by infected individuals. From slicing the ham, rolling your smo...