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The EU wants Luftie to concede some slots in FRA and MUC in return for the state aid.

https://app.handelsblatt.com/politik/de ... 4fNHlH-ap3

lumumba wrote: ↑25 May 2020, 09:50
That's true that's why they should have a small part of the company a bit like with Brussels Airport.

About your argument about Lufthansa it's not applicable regarding the special circumstances.

rwandan-flyer wrote: ↑20 May 2020, 23:04 China takes stake in Norwegian Air

Just to clarify, as your bold seems to suggest the Chines invested money in Norwegian, which is NOT the case.
Outstanding debts from leasing have been converted into shares to avoid bankruptcy, it’s not an investment.

This is relatively good news, except of course for the people who'll have to leave: only 370 layoffs (310 in Belgium and 60 abroad). But how can a plan suddenly shrink from 1000 to 370? And this, without knowing the results of the negotiations between Lufthansa and the German and Belgian government...

Because in a plane there's a passenger list: if someone is infected, it's possible to trace who's at risk. Furthermore the risk is bigger as the period of contact was a couple of hours at least. In the airport, it's impossible to keep trace of who was there at the same time as the infected person. ...

Yes, indeed, in the Sabena days there was an attempt to save on social contributions by trying to relocate to Luxembourg. That would have been a great help. That really shows that this problem is a serious one, one that has been going on for a long time. Unfortunately, 25 years later no government ...

On that part of BigJets' post, you have got a point. But I remember that in the last years of sabena's life, it was considered to delocate pilots to Luxembourg (to save on taxes and social contributions, I presume) That trick doesn’t work anymore, since 2012 social contributions have to be paid in ...

Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t Air France have a special statute for it’s cockpit and cabin crew where the airline pays much less social contributions because they consider their crews not to be working on French territory? You couldn’t be more wrong! Social contributions in France are a lot h...

In the mean time Ryanair reports 1 billion profit!!!

https://investor.ryanair.com/wp-content ... esults.pdf

Bracebrace wrote: ↑17 May 2020, 14:16
Relax man, this is a forum. There is no agenda, just opinions suited to be accompanied by a beer at a bar. Relax.

Exactly! Unfortunately there is no bar open.

Bracebrace wrote: ↑17 May 2020, 14:16 If Covid hadn't been there, salary cuts wouldn't have been discussed. Anywhere.

Salary cuts were part of Reboot.

So if you calculate, the cost of opportunity for the Belsian state for each employee of maybe around 4.000 euro /month .. or 50.000 eur / year. Now let's see the big picture. If 3.000 employees would be the new taregt size of the company.. and they would need for the next year maybe 1.000, next yea...

It's rather a good thing that SN isn't integrated into the European Flight Academy. Unless, you want German-speaking pilots, as it's a requirement to enter the school. While SN asks to be fluent in one of the two main national languages, and asks you to learn the other language. They mostly take pi...

Doesn't look too good, no? Or does it, because it also could mean that more passengers can fly from FRA, MUC and ZRH to the US and Africa via Brussels? Don’t look for things which aren’t there! The primary reason is synergy as LH and LX have night stops in BRU. If SN operates the first outbound and...

lumumba wrote: ↑15 May 2020, 11:12 The A321LR would be perfect for Luanda by the way

In high density economy only if you want to be consistent with your earlier comments, no?

lumumba wrote: ↑14 May 2020, 20:41 that's crazy knowing that this is already a polluting industry with no tax on oil!

Why is the difference so big between a low cost has Ryanair making huge profits and other airlines? That's the question looks like Ryanair has the right business model for the future. They will survive without state aid I understand the anger of them it's not fair. And I repeat it's not Brussels Ai...

The only thing we get here, is about one post every five minutes about Brussels Airlines. Shock horror indeed, posts about Brussels Airlines in a topic called Brussels Airlines! Feel free to post news about other airlines in the relevant topic, but let’s stay on topic here, please. This is a discus...

Does the employees of Brussels Airlines proposed a salary cut like with Lufthansa? The opposite in fact, SN is imposing a deep cut. Employees are not allowed to talk about it on social media. https://www.lecho.be/dossiers/coronavirus/brussels-airlines-veut-sabrer-dans-les-salaires-de-tout-le-person...

Thus, I repeat my question: why don't we see the black figures "Boeing compensation for 737 MAX grounding" in their annual report? Because negotiations were still ongoing at the end of the financial year, maybe. Did you see an agreement between TUI and Boeing? Compensation agreements are ...

If only they managed to create a Sabena-KLM company back in the day.... Yes discussed, but ... never finalized In 1990 (ish) both KLM en BA had a 20% participation in Sabena, the infamous SWA (Sabena World Airlines). The cooperation didn’t last for long though, officially because of bad results, bu...

let's not think that IAG is a white knight. Absolutely correct, there are no white knights, a consolidation of the European commercial aviation was overdue long before Covid19! Dumping shiploads of money into the sector will only lead to a number of Alitalia style outfits. Don’t get me wrong, this ...