On 17 December, a Lufthansa Boeing 747-8 (D-ABYT) was taking off runway 9 at Miami Airport, United States destination Frankfurt, Germany. Meanwhile, an Iberia Airbus A330 (EC-LXK) from Madrid, Spain was approaching the same runway for landing.
Only a few seconds after the Boeing 747 took off, the Airbus A330 landed. A – much dramatized – video of the scene appeared on social media. Too close for comfort or not ?
?? Deux avions trop proches à #MiamiAirport
?Evénement survenu le 17 décembre après-midi
?Un A330 #Iberia se pose en piste 9 moins de 5 secondes après le décollage d'un B747 de #Lufthansa? aviation_ftlauderdale on Intsagram via @NewsGuyGreg#airprox #MIA pic.twitter.com/C1WeT4Iamj
— Aero Gazette ?? (@AeroGazette) December 19, 2019
A drama queen indeed, the spotter. At big airports land after is a common clearance, meaning an aircraft can land with the previous traffic still on the runway, providing sufficient stopping distance is available. A balked landing, in this case, would have created a problem as the landing Iberia would have caught up the departing Lufthansa.
Not so common but completely legal and normal maneuver.
generally speaking, it’s a normal situation on every really busy place. for the information, B747 may have still been on the runway when A330 was above threshold, but B747 was obviously above V1 so committed to becoming airborne. they couldn’t stop and couldn’t reject the takeoff. glories to such precise and effective radar controllers, the ATC.
regarding the situation when the landing aircraft executes low altitude missed approach with the preceding becoming airborne, and both aircraft find themselves in very reduced spacing: TCAS will not trigger below 700ft, and by then aircraft would be vectored into different directions. once my airline communicated such procedure as given by London ATC, so we pilots all had to understand what is to be done.
so in conclusion, all perfectly safe there and no issues as far as i can see.
Perfectly normal at many airports provided a minimum distance is there. In csse of a go-around there is no pronlem either. The aircraft taking off has a much higher V2 than the Vref +5 of the landing plane, which would be its speed during the initial climb
Not wise at all. And if this is common practice it should be reconsidered. It is against the law!
No problem, perfectly safe…
perfectly normal situation, you see it at Gatwick Airport regularly…….land after!
6000 ft. and airborne is the requirement with 2 jets (Category 3)…or turn to avert. Video is made dramatic but isn’t really. FAA Order 7110.65Y, 3-10-3. Same runway separation. The depth perception of the camera doesn’t help you to know the distance, but the aircraft is airborne.
Who really cares about rat hole called Miami? Drug dealers?
non intelligent alert
So what`s the official line?
According to the ATC rulebook, FAA order 7110.65, paragraph 3-10-3 a. Separate an arriving aircraft from another aircraft using the same runway by ensuring that the arriving aircraft does not cross the landing threshold until one of the following conditions exists: 2. The other aircraft has departed and crossed the runway end. If you can determine distances by reference to suitable landmarks and the other aircraft is airborne, it need not have crossed the runway end if the following minimum distance from the landing threshold exists: (c) When either is a category III aircraft?6,000 feet.
In other words, because MIA runway 9 is 13000 ft. long, the first plane only needed to be half way down the runway before the second crossed the landing threshold.
That’s a much better way of saying what I said.
The real deal people know the real deal
DEAL…Safer to let them land, though.
Somebody is going to spend some time on the beach for that one!
“anticipated separation” by the local controller could also be justified if the 6000 foot wasnt quite there.
Looked kind of tight, Iberia looked like he was over the threshold before Lufthansa got airborne. Looks like he had the 6,000 ft., but not the airborne. No autopsy, no foul!