The CityJet Sukhoi SSJ100-95 saga is hurting Brussels Airlines

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Re: The CityJet Sukhoi SSJ100-95 saga is hurting Brussels Airlines

Post by jerry » 01 Jul 2018, 19:06

I am on the morning rotation from MXP-BRU tomorrow. Pray for FWF

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Re: The CityJet Sukhoi SSJ100-95 saga is hurting Brussels Airlines

Post by Ansett » 01 Jul 2018, 19:40

Mexican airline Interjet also has problems with its Sukhoi SSJ aircraft :

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-i ... story.html

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Re: The CityJet Sukhoi SSJ100-95 saga is hurting Brussels Airlines

Post by thisguy » 01 Jul 2018, 19:43

BHX - BRU for 3 July at 6am just changed again from EI-FWF to EI-FWG.
Last activity for FWG is landing in BRU last night from MXP and cancelling the evening flight to BHX last night and morning flight tomorrow from BHX to BRU.

See it got a couple of flights tomorrow incl ending with an evening one from BRU to BHX so praying it goes smooth so I can get the Tuesday morning 6am one.
Though I find it unacceptable we have to "pray" for our flight to turn up, they need to sort this Sukhoi crap.

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Re: The CityJet Sukhoi SSJ100-95 saga is hurting Brussels Airlines

Post by sn26567 » 01 Jul 2018, 20:22

The SN inflight magazine says that 5 SSJ100s are assigned to its flights. Since CityJet does not seem this aircraft on other duties, that means that two aircraft can be AOG any time without affecting SN's traffic.
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Re: The CityJet Sukhoi SSJ100-95 saga is hurting Brussels Airlines

Post by jan_olieslagers » 01 Jul 2018, 21:34

they need to sort this Sukhoi crap
Perhaps. But how can you tell? It may just as well be they are unable or unwilling to perform proper maintenance. I do not hear of the same level of problems from other operators of the type? [[edited to add: @Ansett does mention similar issues at Interjet]]

One may however question SN's continuing use of CityJet - they do fail to deliver properly. Just hope the contract/SLA punishes that severely enough to really hurt.
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Re: The CityJet Sukhoi SSJ100-95 saga is hurting Brussels Airlines

Post by thisguy » 01 Jul 2018, 22:40

Well I didn't mean Sukhoi crap as in crap planes but I meant like all the delay and cancelled flights crap that is going on, I never had this issue with BHX - BRU before Brussels Airlines started using Cityjet and the Sukhoi planes.
I believe before all this my 10.40am flight from BHX was by Flybe and they definitely used different planes, but this is the first time in over 4 months of using that route and I saw they changed planes and use Cityjet.

I'm a noob when it comes to flying, I know nothing about planes and only about booking a flight and showing up on time, but can anyone explain why the evening flight tonight to BHX and the morning flight tomorrow from BHX to BRU already got cancelled this morning at like 7am while FWG ( the plane in question ) still did a flight this morning from MXP to BRU arriving with 30 mins delay at 10.42am ?

I'm sure there is a very good reason for ( or not lol ) but it just seems weird to me the plane wouldn't make a flight scheduled like 10 hours after landing, let alone already get cancelled for the next morning ( though I guess that's due to it not flying to BHX tonight in the first place )

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Re: The CityJet Sukhoi SSJ100-95 saga is hurting Brussels Airlines

Post by nordikcam » 02 Jul 2018, 00:54

thisguy wrote:
01 Jul 2018, 19:43
Though I find it unacceptable we have to "pray" for our flight to turn up, they need to sort this Sukhoi crap.
As it is necessary, in fact, to ask the type of plane or its registration to be sure to leave, I changed my company on the European network where I was still flying with SN. I came back from two trips to Florence and Milan Malpensa this week in Embraer de KLM. It was perfect!

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Re: The CityJet Sukhoi SSJ100-95 saga is hurting Brussels Airlines

Post by airbuske » 02 Jul 2018, 09:15

Most cancellations these days are due to lack of crew not due to technical problems :roll:
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Re: The CityJet Sukhoi SSJ100-95 saga is hurting Brussels Airlines

Post by nordikcam » 02 Jul 2018, 12:16

airbuske wrote:
02 Jul 2018, 09:15
Most cancellations these days are due to lack of crew not due to technical problems :roll:
You certainly know more than me ... but for a passenger it is the same ... the plane does not fly!
And a passenger who has to fly prefers the plane to be in the air!

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Post by KriVa » 02 Jul 2018, 15:19

Not sure whether it had any impact on operations, but an emergency slide was accidentally activated on FWF earlier today.
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Post by Passenger » 02 Jul 2018, 15:54

KriVa wrote:
02 Jul 2018, 15:19
Not sure whether it had any impact on operations, but an emergency slide was accidentally activated on FWF earlier today.
Well, there we have our Monday Morning Smile at last...

By the way, it was not "accidentally activated": it was openend by passenger mr Murphy.

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Re: The CityJet Sukhoi SSJ100-95 saga is hurting Brussels Airlines

Post by luchtzak » 02 Jul 2018, 16:15

Passenger wrote:
02 Jul 2018, 15:54
KriVa wrote:
02 Jul 2018, 15:19
Not sure whether it had any impact on operations, but an emergency slide was accidentally activated on FWF earlier today.
Well, there we have our Monday Morning Smile at last...

By the way, it was not "accidentally activated": it was openend by passenger mr Murphy.
So you say that a passenger opened an emergency exit ?

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Re: The CityJet Sukhoi SSJ100-95 saga is hurting Brussels Airlines

Post by Passenger » 02 Jul 2018, 16:18

luchtzak wrote:
02 Jul 2018, 16:15
Passenger wrote:
02 Jul 2018, 15:54
KriVa wrote:
02 Jul 2018, 15:19
Not sure whether it had any impact on operations, but an emergency slide was accidentally activated on FWF earlier today.
Well, there we have our Monday Morning Smile at last...

By the way, it was not "accidentally activated": it was openend by passenger mr Murphy.
So you say that a passenger opened an emergency exit ?
Sorry - I should have said "unconfirmed rumours from an unreliable soruce say that..." .

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Re: The CityJet Sukhoi SSJ100-95 saga is hurting Brussels Airlines

Post by CTBke » 02 Jul 2018, 16:34

luchtzak wrote:
02 Jul 2018, 16:15
Passenger wrote:
02 Jul 2018, 15:54
KriVa wrote:
02 Jul 2018, 15:19
Not sure whether it had any impact on operations, but an emergency slide was accidentally activated on FWF earlier today.
Well, there we have our Monday Morning Smile at last...

By the way, it was not "accidentally activated": it was openend by passenger mr Murphy.
So you say that a passenger opened an emergency exit ?
ever heard of Murphy's law .. ? that's why it's mr Murphy... :)
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Re: The CityJet Sukhoi SSJ100-95 saga is hurting Brussels Airlines

Post by convair » 10 Jul 2018, 13:53

And yet another one: EI-FWE that had been AOG for days had just taken off to BMA as SN2303, but after a few loops above Belgium, it came back to base after a 30 minutes "flight".

source: FR24

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Re: The CityJet Sukhoi SSJ100-95 saga is hurting Brussels Airlines

Post by nordikcam » 10 Jul 2018, 14:01

convair wrote:
10 Jul 2018, 13:53
And yet another one: EI-FWE that had been AOG for days had just taken off to BMA as SN2303, but after a few loops above Belgium, it came back to base after a 30 minutes "flight".

source: FR24
This plane and the use that SN makes are just a gigantic joke! At the expense of passengers ! Not professionnal at all !

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Post by Passenger » 10 Jul 2018, 14:50

nordikcam wrote:
10 Jul 2018, 14:01
convair wrote:
10 Jul 2018, 13:53
And yet another one: EI-FWE that had been AOG for days had just taken off to BMA as SN2303, but after a few loops above Belgium, it came back to base after a 30 minutes "flight".source: FR24
This plane and the use that SN makes are just a gigantic joke! At the expense of passengers! Not professionnal at all!
Indeed. Three Belgian airlines face a similar problem. Brussels Airlines with their Cityjet-SSJ-operations, TUI with their ANR-ERJ-operations, and Air Belgium with a very early C-check on ABA.

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Re: The CityJet Sukhoi SSJ100-95 saga is hurting Brussels Airlines

Post by MathijsH » 11 Jul 2018, 19:25

https://www.bruzz.be/economie/brussels- ... 2018-07-11

So no more Sukhoi's from next year March?

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Re: The CityJet Sukhoi SSJ100-95 saga is hurting Brussels Airlines

Post by Ozzie1969 » 16 Jul 2018, 10:04

It says here that Cityjet's Sukhois are used to fly to Billund. I flew Brussels Airlines to Billund last year and that was a FlyBe aircraft. Has Brussels Airlines stopped using FlyBe?

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Re: The CityJet Sukhoi SSJ100-95 saga is hurting Brussels Airlines

Post by TLspotting » 16 Jul 2018, 10:24

Ozzie1969 wrote:
16 Jul 2018, 10:04
It says here that Cityjet's Sukhois are used to fly to Billund. I flew Brussels Airlines to Billund last year and that was a FlyBe aircraft. Has Brussels Airlines stopped using FlyBe?
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