Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2018

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2018

Post by sean1982 » 05 Jul 2018, 13:25

On 25th and 26th of july Belgian, italian, Spanish and Portugese based Ryanair cabin crew will go on strike. Expect a full meltdown of all services that are crewed by these crews.

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2018

Post by Passenger » 07 Jul 2018, 12:30

On 5th July 2018, and as a reply to the announcement by different trade unions of a strike for 25-26 July 2018 at Ryanair, Belgian deputy prime minister and minister of Employment, Economy and Consumer Affairs Kris Peeters issued a press statement that will have severe consequences for future strikes in Belgian aviation. See this article on the homepage:
http://www.aviation24.be/airlines/ryana ... ed-strike/

Minister Kris Peeters said in his press release from 5th July 2018: "...A strike is not a form of force majeure. Travellers may therefore choose between a refund or an alternative flight if their booked flight is cancelled due to the strike. And when the passengers are notified only within 14 days before their flight date, they are entitled to the indemnity as per 261/2004..."
Source (with full text down below here):
http://www.krispeeters.be/portfolio/min ... anzien-van
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http://www.krispeeters.be/sites/default ... yanair.pdf

The above statement from minister Peeters - "a strike is not a form of force majeure" - means that all passengers can now demand the indemnity (250€-400€-600€) when there is a strike at an airline.

Of course strikes by public services (ATC, Customs, Police, Fire Brigade) are still force majeure because they are beyond control of airlines. And there is jurisprudence at Belgian labour courts that a wildcat strike is also force majeure ("wildcat strike" = unexpected, unforeseen and without notice).


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Copy/paste of the full text - apparently only available in Dutch:

Vice-eersteminister en minister van Consumentenzaken Kris Peeters zal contact opnemen met het management van Ryanair om te verzekeren dat de rechten van reizigers die getroffen worden door de aangekondigde staking van 25 en 26 juli, gevrijwaard blijven. Kris Peeters: “Een staking is geen vorm van overmacht. Reizigers mogen dus kiezen tussen een terugbetaling of een alternatieve vlucht als blijkt dat hun geboekte vlucht omwille van de staking niet plaatsvindt. Ik laat contact opnemen met Ryanair om te verzekeren dat de procedure correct wordt gevolgd en mijn diensten zullen dit in de komende weken van zeer nabij opvolgen”.

Wanneer een vlucht geannuleerd wordt, dan moeten luchtvaartmaatschappijen zich aan volgende regels houden:
1°. Overeenkomstig de Europese Verordening (EG) nr. 261/2004 m.b.t. de rechten van de luchtvaartpassagiers moet de luchtvaartmaatschappij in geval van annulering, de reizigers (individueel) verwittigen. Dit geldt evengoed bij een staking.
2°. Wanneer geen overmacht kan ingeroepen worden (en dat is bij een staking volgens de Europese rechtspraak inderdaad niet het geval), dan moet de maatschappij:
- ofwel de vlucht terug te betalen
- ofwel een alternatieve vlucht aan te bieden.
Het is de reiziger die kiest tussen deze.
3°. Als de reiziger op minder dan 14 dagen voor de voorziene datum van de vlucht wordt verwittigd van de annulering, dan heeft hij recht op een compensatie bovenop de terugbetaling of de alternatieve vlucht. De hoogte van de compensatie is afhankelijk van de afstand. Een persmededeling die de staking aankondigt, is niet voldoende. Het moet gaan om een persoonlijke communicatie.
Detailinformatie vindt de reiziger terug op de website van de FOD Mobiliteit:
https://mobilit.belgium.be/nl/luchtvaar ... annulering

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 07 Jul 2018, 19:16

If the flight is cancelled more than 14 days in advance, I'm afraid that passengers can only ask for reimbursement...
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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2018

Post by Passenger » 07 Jul 2018, 20:17

sn26567 wrote:
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If the flight is cancelled more than 14 days in advance, I'm afraid that passengers can only ask for reimbursement...
That's what minister Peeters also adjusts: when an airline cancels and there is no force majeure, it's up to the passengers to choose between a rerouting and a reimbursement.

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 08 Jul 2018, 16:47

Portugalia cabin crew plan to strike from 11 to 16 July 2018. Don't they operate some flights to Brussels for TAP?
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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2018

Post by Passenger » 08 Jul 2018, 23:28

27-28 July and 03-04 August: Iberia ground staff at Barcelona.

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 10 Jul 2018, 14:57

Ryanair Irish pilots agreed to meet airline’s management on 11 July, to discuss the possible staving off of a planned strike on 12 July 2018. The carrier may fly in cockpit crew from bases abroad to fill gaps.
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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 11 Jul 2018, 15:19

sn26567 wrote:
08 Jul 2018, 16:47
Portugalia cabin crew plan to strike from 11 to 16 July 2018. Don't they operate some flights to Brussels for TAP?
Anyway, Portugalia cabin crew no longer plan to strike from 11 to 16 July 2018.
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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2018

Post by Passenger » 13 Jul 2018, 17:39

The trade unions at Aviapartner LGG are sharpening their knives. Media report: "...Volgens de bonden zijn er te weinig mensen, voldoet het materiaal niet en is de werking van het bedrijf niet transparant genoeg en zijn de arbeidsomstandigheden uiterst zwaar en wijzigt het personeel ongelooflijk snel”. Translated: not enough workforce, equipment not good enough, company policy not transparant enough... etc.

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2018

Post by Passenger » 15 Jul 2018, 16:52

Monday morning: strike at Staca, the private bus company operating Leuven-Brussels for Flemish public transport company De Lijn. Don't know though if this strike will affect Brussels Airport.

https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20180715_03614317

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2018

Post by jan_olieslagers » 15 Jul 2018, 17:01

Monday morning: strike at Staca
That's tomorrow, 16th of July? Too bad! In case of doubt, the train might be a better option. In this particular situation, that is, there seems to be no train strike at hand right now.

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2018

Post by Passenger » 17 Jul 2018, 18:09

Press report: "a SAS flight Stockholm-Brussels (ARN-BRU) from Monday evening was cancelled because the crew went on strike, with last minute announcement only". Three Belgian passengers were then rebooked onto this mornings' flight, but that flight was also cancelled, the passengers say (FR24 shows that this mornings' flight operated, so they were probably overbooked/offloaded).

https://www.hln.be/reizen/vlaamse-reizi ... ~aa9af54b/

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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 18 Jul 2018, 17:13

Ryanair cancels 50 of its 160 daily flights to/from Belgian airports on both 25 and 26 July, due to a strike of some cabin crew.

http://www.aviation24.be/airlines/ryana ... ew-trikes/
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Re: Strikes affecting Belgian airports in 2018

Post by Passenger » 20 Jul 2018, 14:41

Stop bullying the passengers!

Open letter from Luk De Wilde, senior aviation journalist:
https://travel-magazine.be/opiniestuk-s ... te-pesten/

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