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Ryanair cancels 2,100 flights in Sep-Oct 2017, and 18,000 more in Nov 2017-Mar 2018

Post by Boeing767copilot » 15 Sep 2017, 20:40

Ryanair Is Scrapping Up to 50 Flights a Day to Meet Irish Vacation Rules


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Post by sn26567 » 15 Sep 2017, 23:50

http://www.aviation24.be/airlines/ryana ... s-per-day/

Ryanair will cancel between 40 and 50 flights a week during the next 6 weeks to improve punctuality.

Already this weekend in Charleroi, following 4 flights are cancelled:
Saturday: flights to Zaragosa, Fez and Trapani
Sunday: flight to Vilnius.

Passengers will be reimbursed or an alternative will be proposed. Which one, at such a short notice?
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Post by luchtzak » 16 Sep 2017, 00:14

sn26567 wrote:
15 Sep 2017, 23:50
Already this weekend in Charleroi, following 4 flights are cancelled:
Saturday: flights to Zaragosa, Fez and Trapani
Sunday: flight to Vilnius.

Passengers will be reimbursed or an alternative will be proposed. Which one, at such a short notice?
And what if you booked a hotel in Fez for a nice holiday and your flight has been cancelled ?

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sn26567 wrote:
15 Sep 2017, 23:50
http://www.aviation24.be/airlines/ryana ... s-per-day/
Ryanair will cancel between 40 and 50 flights a week during the next 6 weeks to improve punctuality.
Already this weekend in Charleroi, following 4 flights are cancelled:
Saturday: flights to Zaragosa, Fez and Trapani
Sunday: flight to Vilnius.
Passengers will be reimbursed or an alternative will be proposed. Which one, at such a short notice?
The reason for the cancellation is an internal/operational problem, hence: for the above 4 flights, and for all other cancellations that are done within 14 days before flight date, Ryanair has to pay the indemnity as per EU Rule 261/2004 (indemnity, to be paid on top of the full refund or free rebooking).

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Post by luchtzak » 16 Sep 2017, 00:53

5 cancelled flights: Sofia to Charleroi tomorrow seems also canceled: https://twitter.com/Jajajanne_/status/9 ... 0325210112

Vincent Gys reacted via Facebook: also 2 flights cancelled tomorrow at Brussels Airport:
Berlin arrival 7.50LT
Lisbon arrival 21.15LT

Wednesday Copenhagen - Charleroi cancelled : https://twitter.com/Jajajanne_/status/9 ... 0325210112

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Post by sn26567 » 16 Sep 2017, 17:01

During the 13:00 news programme, RTL-TVI interviewed a businessman due to fly to Milan tomorrow evening. He was told today by SMS that his flight is cancelled. He was able to rebook a flight on Monday morning, a return flight for which he had to pay 800 €, instead of the 100 € he had paid. And his hotel night in Milan is also lost. He is furious at Ryanair, from whom he will only get 100 €.

But what are his options? He has to be in Milan Monday morning for his business.

Ryanair insists it also caters to business people. Not sure many will continue with Ryanair under such conditions...
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Re: Ryanair in 2017

Post by Passenger » 16 Sep 2017, 17:27

sn26567 wrote:
16 Sep 2017, 17:01
During the 13:00 news programme, RTL-TVI interviewed a businessman due to fly to Milan tomorrow evening. He was told today by SMS that his flight is cancelled. He was able to rebook a flight on Monday morning, a return flight for which he had to pay 800 €, instead of the 100 € he had paid. And his hotel night in Milan is also lost. He is furious at Ryanair, from whom he will only get 100 €.

But what are his options? He has to be in Milan Monday morning for his business.

Ryanair insists it also caters to business people. Not sure many will continue with Ryanair under such conditions...
Of course he's also entitled for a 250 Euro indemnity, as per EU Rule 261/2004: cancellation within 14 days before travel date.

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Post by sn26567 » 16 Sep 2017, 18:53

Passenger wrote:
16 Sep 2017, 17:27
sn26567 wrote:
16 Sep 2017, 17:01
During the 13:00 news programme, RTL-TVI interviewed a businessman due to fly to Milan tomorrow evening. He was told today by SMS that his flight is cancelled. He was able to rebook a flight on Monday morning, a return flight for which he had to pay 800 €, instead of the 100 € he had paid. And his hotel night in Milan is also lost. He is furious at Ryanair, from whom he will only get 100 €.

But what are his options? He has to be in Milan Monday morning for his business.

Ryanair insists it also caters to business people. Not sure many will continue with Ryanair under such conditions...
Of course, he's also entitled to a 250 Euro indemnity, as per EU Rule 261/2004: cancellation within 14 days before travel date.
Sure, but that will not pay for his additional costs! Ryanair will either reimburse or re-book onto one of its own future flights, subject to availability: that will leave many passengers stranded. They should go one step further and re-book those passengers on other airlines as well.
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Post by sn26567 » 16 Sep 2017, 18:59

Cancelled flights on 16 September

Flight No. Departure Airport Arrival Airport
FR162 Berlin Brussels Airport
FR4231 Milan(Bergamo) Paris Beauvais
FR53 Stockholm London Stansted
FR4305 Bologna Dusseldorf Weeze
FR4372 Frankfurt-Hahn Riga
FR6875 Dublin T1 Barcelona El Prat
FR22 Dublin T1 Paris Beauvais
FR5992 London Stansted Madrid
FR2093 Porto Lisbon
FR7256 Dublin T1 Madrid
FR163 Brussels Airport Berlin
FR1903 London Stansted Linz
FR4007 Manchester Alicante
FR583 Pisa London Stansted
FR4232 Paris Beauvais Milan(Bergamo)
FR4306 Dusseldorf Weeze Bologna
FR2094 Lisbon Porto
FR2152 Birmingham Alicante
FR2020 Lanzarote Madrid
FR23 Paris Beauvais Dublin T1
FR52 London Stansted Stockholm
FR4373 Riga Frankfurt-Hahn
FR1251 London Stansted Aalborg
FR4087 Faro(Algarve) Manchester
FR2599 Berlin Riga
FR3734 Porto Lann Bihoue
FR6874 Barcelona El Prat Dublin T1
FR5991 Madrid London Stansted
FR8495 Milan(Bergamo) Brindisi
FR7257 Madrid Dublin T1
FR1904 Linz London Stansted
FR6423 Bologna Valencia
FR582 London Stansted Pisa
FR514 London Stansted Dinard
FR4006 Alicante Manchester
FR1252 Aalborg London Stansted
FR2153 Alicante Birmingham
FR3102 Dublin T1 Schiphol
FR2019 Madrid Lanzarote
FR7011 Stockholm Modlin Warsaw
FR2600 Riga Berlin
FR3733 Lann Bihoue Porto
FR8496 Brindisi Milan(Bergamo)
FR515 Dinard London Stansted
FR6422 Valencia Bologna
FR4088 Manchester Faro(Algarve)
FR1782 London Stansted Bordeaux
FR816 Dublin T1 Edinburgh
FR7012 Modlin Warsaw Stockholm
FR3103 Schiphol Dublin T1
FR712 London Stansted Aarhus
FR817 Edinburgh Dublin T1
FR5831 Milan(Bergamo) Bordeaux
FR5222 Fez Paris Beauvais
FR1783 Bordeaux London Stansted
FR713 Aarhus London Stansted
FR6458 Charleroi Vilnius
FR150 Berlin Glasgow
FR2416 Frankfurt Main Venice Treviso
FR142 Dublin T1 London Gatwick
FR5832 Bordeaux Milan(Bergamo)
FR7081 Milan(Bergamo) Oradea
FR789 Bologna Lisbon
FR1532 Frankfurt Main Glasgow
FR2932 Lisbon Brussels Airport
FR1874 London Stansted Nice
FR3021 Madrid Blagnac
FR5223 Paris Beauvais Fez
FR2417 Venice Treviso Frankfurt Main
FR8892 Milan(Bergamo) Palermo
FR143 London Gatwick Dublin T1
FR7082 Oradea Milan(Bergamo)
FR151 Glasgow Berlin
FR6459 Vilnius Charleroi
FR3022 Blagnac Madrid
FR1533 Glasgow Frankfurt Main
FR790 Lisbon Bologna
FR1875 Nice London Stansted
FR2931 Brussels Airport Lisbon
FR8893 Palermo Milan(Bergamo)

This list does not correspond to what was mentioned yesterday...
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Post by sn26567 » 16 Sep 2017, 19:03

List of cancelled flights 17/09/2017 Sunday

Date Flight Number Departure Arrival
17/09/2017 2018 Lanzarote Madrid
17/09/2017 6387 Malaga Barcelona (BCN)
17/09/2017 6213 Alicante Dusseldorf Weeze
17/09/2017 3103 Amsterdam Dublin
17/09/2017 6387 Barcelona (BCN) Malaga
17/09/2017 8394 Barcelona (BCN) Budapest
17/09/2017 6374 Barcelona (BCN) Paris Beauvais
17/09/2017 9811 Barcelona (BCN) London Stansted
17/09/2017 4352 Brindisi Bologna
17/09/2017 4523 Milan Bergamo Brussels Charleroi
17/09/2017 5494 Milan Bergamo Madrid
17/09/2017 4663 Milan Bergamo Valencia
17/09/2017 4633 Milan Bergamo Zaragoza
17/09/2017 8033 Birmingham Warsaw Modlin
17/09/2017 9332 Billund Pisa
17/09/2017 4351 Bologna Brindisi
17/09/2017 5375 Bologna Madrid
17/09/2017 195 Bologna London Stansted
17/09/2017 4301 Bologna Trapani
17/09/2017 1783 Bordeaux London Stansted
17/09/2017 8946 Bristol Castellon
17/09/2017 8395 Budapest T2b Barcelona (BCN)
17/09/2017 6375 Paris Beauvais Barcelona (BCN)
17/09/2017 8947 Castellon Bristol
17/09/2017 7716 Carcassonne Porto
17/09/2017 4522 Brussels Charleroi Milan Bergamo
17/09/2017 6904 Brussels Charleroi Barcelona Girona (GRO)
17/09/2017 6352 Brussels Charleroi Sofia
17/09/2017 6033 Brussels Charleroi Venice Treviso
17/09/2017 1057 Brussels Charleroi Warsaw Modlin

17/09/2017 3102 Dublin Amsterdam
17/09/2017 1948 Dublin Frankfurt Hahn
17/09/2017 1986 Dublin Nantes
17/09/2017 7152 Dublin Santander
17/09/2017 8401 Bergerac London Stansted
17/09/2017 9283 Faro London Stansted
17/09/2017 6903 Barcelona Girona (GRO) Brussels Charleroi
17/09/2017 1949 Frankfurt Hahn Dublin
17/09/2017 2085 Ibiza Madrid
17/09/2017 2437 Krakow London Stansted
17/09/2017 8777 Limoges London Stansted
17/09/2017 1885 Lisbon London Stansted
17/09/2017 2017 Madrid Lanzarote
17/09/2017 5493 Madrid Milan Bergamo
17/09/2017 5374 Madrid Bologna
17/09/2017 2084 Madrid Ibiza
17/09/2017 6544 Marseille MP2 London Stansted
17/09/2017 2222 Marseille MP2 Valencia
17/09/2017 1875 Nice T1 London Stansted
17/09/2017 8310 Newcastle WRO
17/09/2017 6212 Dusseldorf Weeze Wroclaw
17/09/2017 1987 Nantes Dublin
17/09/2017 7715 Porto Carcassonne
17/09/2017 8344 Porto London Stansted
17/09/2017 2945 Porto Berlin Schonefeld
17/09/2017 9331 Pisa Billund
17/09/2017 7153 Santander Dublin
17/09/2017 6351 Sofia Brussels Charleroi
17/09/2017 9810 London Stansted Barcelona (BCN)
17/09/2017 194 London Stansted Bologna
17/09/2017 1782 London Stansted Bordeaux
17/09/2017 8402 London Stansted Bergerac
17/09/2017 9282 London Stansted Faro
17/09/2017 2436 London Stansted Krakow
17/09/2017 8776 London Stansted Limoges
17/09/2017 1884 London Stansted Lisbon
17/09/2017 6543 London Stansted Marseille MP2
17/09/2017 1874 London Stansted Nice T1
17/09/2017 8345 London Stansted Porto
17/09/2017 2208 Seville Valencia
17/09/2017 1946 Berlin Schonefeld Porto
17/09/2017 4302 Trapani Bologna
17/09/2017 6034 Venice Treviso Brussels Charleroi
17/09/2017 4664 Valencia Milan Bergamo
17/09/2017 2221 Valencia Marseille MP2
17/09/2017 2207 Valencia Seville
17/09/2017 5031 Warsaw Chopin Wroclaw
17/09/2017 8084 Warsaw Modlin Birmingham
17/09/2017 1058 Warsaw Modlin Brussels Charleroi
17/09/2017 8309 Wroclaw Newcastle
17/09/2017 5032 Wroclaw Warsaw Chopin
17/09/2017 4634 Zaragoza Milan Bergamo

Again, this list does not correspond to what was disclosed yesterday.
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Post by sn26567 » 16 Sep 2017, 19:12

Here is what Ryanair says on its website:

If your flight is cancelled we offer you two options to choose from:

1. Apply for a refund

If you wish to cancel your reservation and claim a full refund of the unused flight(s) click on the link below and enter your booking details.

Click Here to Apply for Refund

Refunds will be processed within 7 working days back to the form of payment used for the original booking.

2. Change your Cancelled Flight (for free)

The easiest way to change your cancelled flight for free (subject to seat availability) is by retrieving your booking online:

Click Here To Change Flight

If you require rerouting options, departing / arriving from another airport served by Ryanair or changing an unaffected return flight, please contact one of our advisors using our Free Online Chat or calling one of our customer service Contacts Numbers

We understand that flight cancellations may cause distress and we will accommodate your option of choice wherever possible, while complying with EU Regulation 261/2004.
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Post by lumumba » 16 Sep 2017, 21:05

This behaviour is unacceptable,sure from an airline that's not working under IATA conditions!!!!
They will leave a lot of passengers in a big shit it's like an airline from a third world country ...
Hasta la victoria siempre.


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Post by sn26567 » 16 Sep 2017, 22:39

Interesting reading. This is indeed poor planning for issues that Ryanair knew they would happen this year.
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Post by sn26567 » 16 Sep 2017, 22:58

Do you want some reactions of disgruntled customers? Read here:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ry ... s-11182458

Always getting better?
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Post by ostair » 16 Sep 2017, 23:21

sn26567 wrote:
16 Sep 2017, 22:58
Do you want some reactions of disgruntled customers? Read here:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ry ... s-11182458

Always getting better?
The remark concerning their financial status is special.
When MOL mentioned Norwegian and their status, was he talking about them or his own company?

Reading the report in the Irish times one would think that they have grown too fast.

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Post by sn26567 » 16 Sep 2017, 23:40

Anyway, it will be a costly joke: 2000 cancelled flights, with a load factor of 95% of 189 seats, at 250 € compensation per passenger, you can calculate yourself, that means 89,775,000 euros! Ryanair said on its website that all cancellations will be treated with respect to EU261/2004.
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Post by Passenger » 17 Sep 2017, 00:44

sn26567 wrote:
16 Sep 2017, 23:40
Anyway, it will be a costly joke: 2000 cancelled flights, with a load factor of 95% of 189 seats, at 250 € compensation per passenger, you can calculate yourself, that means 89,775,000 euros! Ryanair said on its website that all cancellations will be treated with respect to EU261/2004.
On top of that, someone from Test-Aankoop / Test-Achats has said on Flemish tv VRT that Test-Aankoop/Test-Achats will also demand reimbursement of other travel arrangements like hotels and car rentals.

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Post by lumumba » 17 Sep 2017, 09:27

sn26567 wrote:
16 Sep 2017, 23:40
Anyway, it will be a costly joke: 2000 cancelled flights, with a load factor of 95% of 189 seats, at 250 € compensation per passenger, you can calculate yourself, that means 89,775,000 euros! Ryanair said on its website that all cancellations will be treated with respect to EU261/2004.
So if I understand well they pay on top of the reimbursement ,250 € per passengers plus all the reservation....?
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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