BRU Summer 2018: news, new routes, airlines

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Re: BRU Summer 2018: news, new routes, airlines

Post by Ozzie1969 » 22 Nov 2017, 11:30

737MAX wrote:
21 Nov 2017, 12:54
Ozzie1969 wrote:
21 Nov 2017, 10:58
Why not Manila? The number of Filipinos in Belgium is large and the Middle Eastern carriers could easily add MNL as a destination from Brussels with just one stop-over.
Huh?
That’s already possible, obviously.
What I meant was for Brussels Airlines to have Manila as a destination, possibly in codeshare. I remember Sabena used to fly to Manila.

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Post by ezis_bis » 22 Nov 2017, 11:50

I don't know about you guys, but for me I prefer not to fly these ultra long flights
I go to Buenos Aires and I prefer 10h+6h via Bogota over the direct one from FRA which is 14h or so

So MNL from BRU would be the same issue

Add to it that you don't have wealthy/travelling public on both sides, nor connections
You need to fill the plane with people (€€ ) or offer them an extra (*A connections)

That's a bit less of a problem to ICN/TPE, and even BOG/GRU

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Post by convair » 22 Nov 2017, 11:51

Ozzie1969 wrote:
22 Nov 2017, 11:30
What I meant was for Brussels Airlines to have Manila as a destination, possibly in codeshare. I remember Sabena used to fly to Manila.
Wasn't that called the "Tokyo Express"?: BRU-(Athens?)-BOM-Bangkok-Manila-Tokyo on good ole B707s and later DC-10s. (Siberia and China were no-fly zones at that time)

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Post by nordikcam » 22 Nov 2017, 12:24

convair wrote:
22 Nov 2017, 11:51
Ozzie1969 wrote:
22 Nov 2017, 11:30
What I meant was for Brussels Airlines to have Manila as a destination, possibly in codeshare. I remember Sabena used to fly to Manila.
Wasn't that called the "Tokyo Express"?: BRU-(Athens?)-BOM-Bangkok-Manila-Tokyo on good ole B707s and later DC-10s. (Siberia and China were no-fly zones at that time)
Humm I guess BRU VIE ATH TEHERAN BOM BKK MNL TOKYO...B707 !!

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Post by theeuropean » 05 Dec 2017, 15:50

Nordica will start Munich and Brussels from Groningen. With a CRJ 700 aircraft.

http://www.aviation24.be/airlines/nordi ... ls-munich/

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Post by convair » 05 Dec 2017, 16:42

nordikcam wrote:
22 Nov 2017, 12:24
convair wrote:
22 Nov 2017, 11:51
Ozzie1969 wrote:
22 Nov 2017, 11:30
What I meant was for Brussels Airlines to have Manila as a destination, possibly in codeshare. I remember Sabena used to fly to Manila.
Wasn't that called the "Tokyo Express"?: BRU-(Athens?)-BOM-Bangkok-Manila-Tokyo on good ole B707s and later DC-10s. (Siberia and China were no-fly zones at that time)
Humm I guess BRU VIE ATH TEHERAN BOM BKK MNL TOKYO...B707 !!
I guess you're right nordikcam. :)

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Post by sn26567 » 05 Dec 2017, 17:33

nordikcam wrote:
22 Nov 2017, 12:24
convair wrote:
22 Nov 2017, 11:51

Wasn't that called the "Tokyo Express"?: BRU-(Athens?)-BOM-Bangkok-Manila-Tokyo on good ole B707s and later DC-10s. (Siberia and China were no-fly zones at that time)
Humm I guess BRU VIE ATH TEHERAN BOM BKK MNL TOKYO...B707 !!
Siberia and China were indeed no-fly zones,... until the USSR (and to a lesser degree China) realised they could get heavy overfly fees by allowing airlines to fly over their territory.
André
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Post by ezis_bis » 07 Dec 2017, 13:54

theeuropean wrote:
05 Dec 2017, 15:50
Nordica will start Munich and Brussels from Groningen. With a CRJ 700 aircraft.
Not Brussels related, but they also start TLL-CPH now

http://www.err.ee/647277/nordica-hakkab ... se-lendama

As from 27/04 11 times a week

So for the fans, you can now hop Brussels-Groningen-Copenhagen-Tallinn if you feel like it!

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Post by sn26567 » 07 Dec 2017, 18:51

ezis_bis wrote:
07 Dec 2017, 13:54
So for the fans, you can now hop Brussels-Groningen-Copenhagen-Tallinn if you feel like it!
Sounds like a good idea. In one day, with a return to Brussels afterwards?
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Post by ezis_bis » 07 Dec 2017, 19:16

sn26567 wrote:
07 Dec 2017, 18:51
Sounds like a good idea. In one day, with a return to Brussels afterwards?
I think it will be difficult
LO8877 BRU-GRQ 1700-1750
LO8846 GRQ-CPH 1825-1930
--> but then it will be for the next day I am afraid
CPH-TLL is at 1330 and 1940


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Post by JustPlanes » 08 Dec 2017, 06:48

ezis_bis wrote:
07 Dec 2017, 19:16
sn26567 wrote:
07 Dec 2017, 18:51
Sounds like a good idea. In one day, with a return to Brussels afterwards?
I think it will be difficult
LO8877 BRU-GRQ 1700-1750
LO8846 GRQ-CPH 1825-1930
--> but then it will be for the next day I am afraid
CPH-TLL is at 1330 and 1940
No stops in OST & RTM to pick up pax?

Couple of questions...
1) Why would you fly to GRQ? Tons of trains every day for 20-40 Euros city to city in 3h30...
2) Why would you fly to CPH with a stop unless you're an airline nut or the fare is very cheap in which case they won't make any money...
3) TLL would have perhaps been interesting even with 1 stop... but 27 hours and a night stop in CPH...
4) Did they hire someone from VLM planning to make that route/schedule up LOL

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Post by PttU » 08 Dec 2017, 07:44

I don't think they want people living near BRU to fly to GRQ, more the other way around: offering people near GRQ a connection to the hub BRU.
Same for GRQ-CPH.
So the route BRU-GRQ-CPH is more like a side-effect...

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Post by rwandan-flyer » 08 Dec 2017, 10:52

It seems that RwandAir will add a 4th weekly flight on its Kigal-Brussels-London route. New flight will be operated on Saturday

On Amadeus, it starts from late March 2018, but on RwandAir website, it starts from early June 2018.

Loads are better ? Because i know that they sometimes struggle to fill well flights to LGW & BRU.

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Post by flightlover » 08 Dec 2017, 11:01

rwandan-flyer wrote:
08 Dec 2017, 10:52
It seems that RwandAir will add a 4th weekly flight on its Kigal-Brussels-London route. New flight will be operated on Saturday

On Amadeus, it starts from late March 2018, but on RwandAir website, it starts from early June 2018.

Loads are better ? Because i know that they sometimes struggle to fill well flights to LGW & BRU.
Cargo loads are quite decent. Don't know about pax though.

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Post by rwandan-flyer » 08 Dec 2017, 18:21

Cargo loads are quite decent. Don't know about pax though.
Quite interesting. I have only stats from UK (Kigali-London):
In August 2017: 3 457 pax
In September 2017: 1 340 pax (1st full month without Air Transit Visa, for pax flying from Brussels to Kigali)
In October 2017: 1 347 pax

http://www.caa.co.uk/Data-and-analysis/ ... a-2017-10/

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Post by luchtzak » 08 Dec 2017, 18:34

rwandan-flyer wrote:
08 Dec 2017, 18:21
Cargo loads are quite decent. Don't know about pax though.
Quite interesting. I have only stats from UK (Kigali-London):
In August 2017: 3 457 pax
In September 2017: 1 340 pax (1st full month without Air Transit Visa, for pax flying from Brussels to Kigali)
In October 2017: 1 347 pax

http://www.caa.co.uk/Data-and-analysis/ ... a-2017-10/
What's is the loadfactor then ? And for Brussels ?

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Post by rwandan-flyer » 09 Dec 2017, 18:03

It seems that RwandAir will add a 4th weekly flight on its Kigal-Brussels-London route. New flight will be operated on Saturday

On Amadeus, it starts from late March 2018, but on RwandAir website, it starts from early June 2018.

Loads are better ? Because i know that they sometimes struggle to fill well flights to LGW & BRU.
It was removed from GDS, probably just an update in Amadeus, because the 3rd flight of the week will be operated on Saturday instead of on Friday

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