TUI fly Belgium in 2017

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Re: TUI fly Belgium in 2017

Post by sn26567 » 26 Sep 2017, 17:28

TUI Belgium removes planned St. Maarten service in W17

TUI Belgium in recent schedule update has removed planned St. Maarten schedule, previously scheduled to commence on 30OCT17. The airline originally planned 1 weekly Brussels – St. Maarten – Punta Cana – Brussels triangle routing, on board Boeing 787-8.

The airline’s Punta Cana service remains unchanged at 3 weekly level. Previously filed St. Maarten schedule as follow.

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TB151 BRU1005 – 1350SXM1505 – 1620  PUJ 788 1
TB152 SXM1505 – 1620PUJ1750 – 0720+1BRU 788 1
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Re: TUI fly Belgium in 2017

Post by Sai » 27 Sep 2017, 01:46

As a further step in the alignment between TUI fly Belgium & TUI fly Netherlands, the latter will upgrade its long-haul on board service up to the standards of its Belgian counterpart.

From October 12 on, meals, drinks and IFE are included on TUI fly Netherlands long-haul flights, previously just 1 meal and a glass of water were included, IFE had to be paid for.
source: tui.nl

Happy to see they chose to upgrade the lesser one and didn't choose to downgrade the service of TUB...
However I wonder if they can resist the pressure of the emerging low-cost long-haul (e.g Joon, Norwegian,...etc) where you have to pay for everything.

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Re: TUI fly Belgium in 2017

Post by Passenger » 27 Sep 2017, 10:22

An EuroAtlantic B767-300ER (reg CS-TKS) is doing TB-217 Brussels-Orlando-Miami-Brussels. Apparently with a delay (unforeseen backup) and with another schedule problem in Orlando (crew rest?).

CS-TKS:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/cs-tks
TB-217:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/tb217

Maybe because OO-JNL (TUI's own 767-300ER) is AOG?
OO-JNL:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oo-jnl

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Re: TUI fly Belgium in 2017

Post by TLspotting » 24 Oct 2017, 19:45

TUI fly will open 3 new routes, according to Travel Express Benelux Facebook page...
Antwerp - Firenze as from June 18
Brussels - Aruba as from June 15 (Mondays, with SDQ)
Brussels - Curacao as from June 18 (Fridays, with SDQ)

The flights from Brussels will be operated with 787s, so conforming the info at the begin of this year with a 787 that could replace OO-JNL during the next year.

Maybe a new E190 for TUI ?
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Re: TUI fly Belgium in 2017

Post by luchtzak » 24 Oct 2017, 20:04

TLspotting wrote:
24 Oct 2017, 19:45
TUI fly will open 3 new routes, according to Travel Express Benelux Facebook page...
Couldn't hesitate to write about this news 8-) http://www.aviation24.be/airlines/tui-f ... m-antwerp/

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Re: TUI fly Belgium in 2017

Post by Matthias » 13 Nov 2017, 15:35

Hi,

According to planespotters.net, the first 737MAX for Tui will have OO-MAX as registration.
Has somebody more info about the frame? Is it already in the FAL? What will be the configuration? Whew will it come to Belgium?

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Re: TUI fly Belgium in 2017

Post by Bralo20 » 13 Nov 2017, 16:00

MSN: 44588
L/N: 6735
Engines: CFMI LEAP-1B

But no info found on the status.

It's not yet mentioned in the production list found on https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 2050202365

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Re: TUI fly Belgium in 2017

Post by sn26567 » 13 Nov 2017, 17:57

Matthias wrote:
13 Nov 2017, 15:35
According to planespotters.net, the first 737MAX for Tui will have OO-MAX as registration.
Again TUIfly has no pattern whatsoever for its registrations. They should take example on Brussels Airlines where the registration clearly says the type of aircraft.
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Re: TUI fly Belgium in 2017

Post by 737MAX » 13 Nov 2017, 20:30

sn26567 wrote:
13 Nov 2017, 17:57
Matthias wrote:
13 Nov 2017, 15:35
According to planespotters.net, the first 737MAX for Tui will have OO-MAX as registration.
Again TUIfly has no pattern whatsoever for its registrations. They should take example on Brussels Airlines where the registration clearly says the type of aircraft.
Like? :lol:

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Re: TUI fly Belgium in 2017

Post by Bralo20 » 13 Nov 2017, 21:32

sn26567 wrote:
13 Nov 2017, 17:57

Again TUIfly has no pattern whatsoever for its registrations. They should take example on Brussels Airlines where the registration clearly says the type of aircraft.
They have a pattern (not exactly by type but by company)...

It used to be:

Jetairfly = OO-Jxx

But unfortunately Jetair has to be erased and thus are current and future registrations:

TUI Airlines Belgium = OO-Txx


Seems that the first MAX will get a special registration though...

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Re: TUI fly Belgium in 2017

Post by Bralo20 » 13 Nov 2017, 21:43

TUI Belgium isn't the only company without any pattern, their main supplier Boeing has also strange numbers but there it's with the serial numbers of the planes. The only consistency with Boeing are the line numbers, the serial numbers however... For example In a batch of sequential line numbers (6690-6695) they have MSN's: 60880 (MAX8) -> 31277 (800NG) -> 63620 (800NG) -> 61201 (800NG) -> 40845 (800NG) -> 61208 (MAX8)...

Guess it's sometimes easier to take the hard road :mrgreen:

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Re: TUI fly Belgium in 2017

Post by sn26567 » 13 Nov 2017, 22:22

Bralo20 wrote:
13 Nov 2017, 21:32
sn26567 wrote:
13 Nov 2017, 17:57

Again TUIfly has no pattern whatsoever for its registrations. They should take example on Brussels Airlines where the registration clearly says the type of aircraft.
It used to be:

Jetairfly = OO-Jxx
Indeed, and initially, it was even OO-JAx (with the exception of JBG in honour of Gerard Brackx).

Then came the Dreamliner which appropriately got a JDL registration.

Then came the Embraers which appropriately got JEB and JEM. But oops, the 3rd one was JVA... And oops again, JEF was not an Embraer. And what did JOS look like?

Now they start all over with OO-Txx, but without a clear pattern.
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Re: TUI fly Belgium in 2017

Post by 737MAX » 14 Nov 2017, 19:26

sn26567 wrote:
13 Nov 2017, 22:22
Bralo20 wrote:
13 Nov 2017, 21:32
sn26567 wrote:
13 Nov 2017, 17:57

Again TUIfly has no pattern whatsoever for its registrations. They should take example on Brussels Airlines where the registration clearly says the type of aircraft.
It used to be:

Jetairfly = OO-Jxx
Indeed, and initially, it was even OO-JAx (with the exception of JBG in honour of Gerard Brackx).

Then came the Dreamliner which appropriately got a JDL registration.

Then came the Embraers which appropriately got JEB and JEM. But oops, the 3rd one was JVA... And oops again, JEF was not an Embraer. And what did JOS look like?

Now they start all over with OO-Txx, but without a clear pattern.
What's your logic for the registration of the first Belgian 737 MAX, then?
And you say Brussels Airlines uses registrations that clearly says the type of aircraft...? :roll:

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Re: TUI fly Belgium in 2017

Post by DeltaWiskey » 14 Nov 2017, 20:00

737MAX wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 19:26
And you say Brussels Airlines uses registrations that clearly says the type of aircraft...? :roll:
I am not really getting the point of this discussion, but regs for Brussels Airlines are as follows:
A320: OO-SN...
A319: OO-SS...
A330: OO-SF...

Past:
RJ100: OO-DW...
RJ85: OO-DJ...

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Re: TUI fly Belgium in 2017

Post by PttU » 14 Nov 2017, 20:16

Why should there be any logic?
I understand it's satisfying for our autistic sides, but besides that?

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Re: TUI fly Belgium in 2017

Post by convair » 14 Nov 2017, 20:43

PttU wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 20:16
Why should there be any logic?
I understand it's satisfying for our autistic sides, but besides that?
Very classy comment!
I guess that, a.o., this registration pattern makes internal and operations communications a bit easier. And they are not all autists (with all due respect to the people who are!).

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Re: TUI fly Belgium in 2017

Post by flightlover » 14 Nov 2017, 22:48

convair wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 20:43
PttU wrote:
14 Nov 2017, 20:16
Why should there be any logic?
I understand it's satisfying for our autistic sides, but besides that?
Very classy comment!
I guess that, a.o., this registration pattern makes internal and operations communications a bit easier. And they are not all autists (with all due respect to the people who are!).
It's indeed easy for a supplier to know what type of plane they are catering for.
It also helps when a lot of similar planes are present to make a basic selection just by knowing the differences between different types in case of last minute bay changes. Although that is for the more experienced workers :)

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Re: TUI fly Belgium in 2017

Post by JAFflyer » 15 Nov 2017, 08:36

While all should be very enthusiastic about a brand new airplane type operating for a Belgian airline (yes, still OO-...), we start discussing registrations... If this would have been a brand new aircraft type for Brussels Airlines (unlikely for many years to come, as only second hand aircraft are good enough...), nobody would complain about a registration and this thread would have had +10 pages of people being ecstatic...
Factory new, a brand new aircraft type, B737MAX is coming to Belgium, an not only 1...and I'm not even talking about a second 787 Dreamliner. Can we be a little more optimistic about that?

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Re: TUI fly Belgium in 2017

Post by Yuqu12 » 15 Nov 2017, 09:22

If I'm not wrong: the 2nd Dreamliner will be another 787-8 from another airline in the TUI-group and the new 787-9 will then go to this other airline, not TUI Belgium.

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Re: TUI fly Belgium in 2017

Post by DeltaWiskey » 15 Nov 2017, 09:25

JAFflyer wrote:
15 Nov 2017, 08:36
While all should be very enthusiastic about a brand new airplane type operating for a Belgian airline (yes, still OO-...), we start discussing registrations... If this would have been a brand new aircraft type for Brussels Airlines (unlikely for many years to come, as only second hand aircraft are good enough...), nobody would complain about a registration and this thread would have had +10 pages of people being ecstatic...
I am very happy for TUI that they will be getting a new aircraft / type, factory new. I also think it is quite a nice "gesture" to give this bird a special registration. :) (I just don't really get the whole discussion on this forum about the registrations, but that's a different matter)

A new aircraft / type isn't unlikely for Brussels Airlines for many years to come, it could be as soon as spring 2019. :twisted:

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