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sean1982 wrote: 14 Dec 2017, 11:23 It would even be better if people would stop acting like waiting by a baggage belt for 15min is the same as the world coming to an end :roll:
15 minutes? In Brussels? When it's Swissport, more like 30 minutes... and then you miss your train, so that becomes an hour because they've put your trolley in the hold. In the evening that's pretty frustrating.

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P.S. Personally, most of my trips are either with a large suitcase or I manage with a briefcase... so not my personal problem...

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Stij wrote: 14 Dec 2017, 10:29 On the other hand, if it would be given back on the tarmac, way less people would mind...
Like here with Hop! for Air France at AMS two days ago, with a CRJ1000 which is narrow like a pipeline and has little room for trolleys in the luggage bins:
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sn26567 wrote: 14 Dec 2017, 13:47 Like here with Hop! for Air France at AMS two days ago, with a CRJ1000 which is narrow like a pipeline and has little room for trolleys in the luggage bins:
Lufthansa does it as well when you're on there Canadairs...

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15 minutes? In Brussels? When it's Swissport, more like 30 minutes... and the you miss your train, so that becomes an hour because they've put your trolley in the hold. In the evening that's pretty frustrating.
My thoughts exactly. I do not like the principle of needing to pay to bring my carry-on on-board. Nor the principle of paying to sit next to my partner. This is another reason for me to continue to avoid Ryanair.

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Stij wrote: 14 Dec 2017, 13:38
sean1982 wrote: 14 Dec 2017, 11:23 It would even be better if people would stop acting like waiting by a baggage belt for 15min is the same as the world coming to an end :roll:
15 minutes? In Brussels? When it's Swissport, more like 30 minutes... and then you miss your train, so that becomes an hour because they've put your trolley in the hold. In the evening that's pretty frustrating.

Cheers,

Stij

P.S. Personally, most of my trips are either with a large suitcase or I manage with a briefcase... so not my personal problem...
A lot of times stij, my suitcase is on the belt before I reach the baggage hall, even in BRU

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Concerning the fact that hand luggage is sometimes taken off you, and not handed back at the plane by some airlines, what I find the most annoying about their procedure is not the fact you (may) have to wait a few minutes at the belt, but the fact that hand luggage is more fragile and often less robust than a hard suitcase.
I don't mind a few scratches on a hardcase, but I hate it when I get my hand luggage back with a hook torn in its fabric. A delivery service at the aircraft's door is perfectly fine for me however: I don't need to physically sit right on (or under) my hand luggage throughout the trip.

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Ryanair faces a strike by its Portuguese pilots on 20 December 2017.

Ryanair faces a strike by its Spanish ground workers on 30 December 2017.
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Ryanair limits carry on to one small bag for under the seat in front of you. (For the flights to Israel)
No Normal, big carry-on allowed.
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sean1982 wrote: 14 Dec 2017, 19:38A lot of times stij, my suitcase is on the belt before I reach the baggage hall, even in BRU
Mmm... to me that only happens when I arrive in the US when immigration takes more than an half an hour...
:D

But wait... you fly BA a lot from LHR, don t you? That' s Aviapartner... they re quicker I have the impression...

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Stij wrote: 15 Dec 2017, 06:15
sean1982 wrote: 14 Dec 2017, 19:38A lot of times stij, my suitcase is on the belt before I reach the baggage hall, even in BRU
Mmm... to me that only happens when I arrive in the US when immigration takes more than an half an hour...
:D

But wait... you fly BA a lot from LHR, don t you? That' s Aviapartner... they re quicker I have the impression...

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Winds of change ?

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/ryana ... christmas/
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2017/1 ... al-action/

Abstract :
Ryanair has agreed to recognise pilot unions for the first time in its 32-year history in a bid to stop the first pilot strike in its history from taking place.

In a statement, Ryanair said it has written to the pilot unions in Ireland, the UK, Germany, Italy, Spain and Portugal.

It had invited each of them to talks to recognise these unions as the representative body for pilots in Ryanair in each of these countries.

"Ryanair will now change its long standing policy of not recognising unions in order to avoid any threat of disruption to its customers and its flights from pilot unions during Christmas week," the statement said.


"Recognising unions will be a significant change for Ryanair, but we have delivered radical change before," Mr O'Leary said.

Long way before it really happens methinks but for sure necessary to avoid the major disruption ahead.
Price to pay.

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Didn't the pilots want one representative union for ALL the pilots? What Ryanair accepts is still far from that goal: it will discuss with one union per country. "Divide ut imperes" !
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sn26567 wrote: 15 Dec 2017, 10:26 Didn't the pilots want one representative union for ALL the pilots? What Ryanair accepts is still far from that goal: it will discuss with one union per country. "Divide ut imperes" !
Agreed André but the house is on fire.
By all means RYR must prevent those multiple strikes so the present step is just that : fire fighting.
I see this as the minimum move to possibly avoid the imminent strikes ("come on and let's talk"), while MoL hopes it to be the max he will have to give.
Interesting times ahead.

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Italian pilots will not go on strike on 15 December after Ryanair decided to approve trade unions.

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Hopefully the pilots will not forget the cabin crew who are much more in need of representation than them

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Ansett wrote: 15 Dec 2017, 17:20 LOL !!!
Don't fall into FR's trap !
They is only inviting pilots to TALKS about recognising their union(s) !!! And not before Wednesday, when strikes would be held. FR is just trying to avoid major disruptions during the holiday season. In the end, they will say they could not come to an agreement with the pilots about recognising a union and the holiday season will be over and the "low" January and February months will be there with a lot less impact for any possible union action.
Don't get fooled !
FR’s operation is so fragile atm that any walkout of pilots would push the first domino stone and descend the airline into pure mayhem, no matter what time of the year

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TCAS works fine, .... when both are equipped !

Going for a head-on collision course?

MoL at his best : Trusssst me, pull off these strikesssss and we will talk
:twisted:

But sorry guys I have other things at hand right now ....
Ryanair has told pilot unions it cannot meet their representatives before Wednesday, the day when strikes are scheduled in Ireland and Portugal.
Source : https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2017/1 ... al-action/

Talk-to-my-butt-I-have-a-headache answer :
The IMPACT trade union said the work stoppage will go ahead unless management arranges a meeting before that.
Source : https://www.rte.ie/amp/927837/?__twitte ... ssion=true

Seat belt sign On.

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...Ryanair had invited pilot unions in Ireland, the UK, Germany, Italy, Spain and Portugal to talks to recognise them as the representative body for pilots in Ryanair in each of these countries...
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2017/1 ... al-action/

Ryanair says it wants to talk to the unions in these 5 countries, obviously because they were busy organizing a strike. I wonder if the solidarity between FR pilots will be limited to their country borders. And what about union representation for cabin crew?

And also from the same article, and very important: ...Ryanair shares closed down over 8% in Dublin trade yesterday...
There was already a 4,5% drop a few days earlier, so large investors won't accept a third drop on Monday. I'm pretty sure that Ryanair will announce before Monday morning that management was able to modify their agenda, so they will meet the unions on Tuesday...

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