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Re: Alitalia near bankruptcy. Can it be saved?

Post by lumumba » 16 Apr 2018, 22:10

sn-remember wrote:
16 Apr 2018, 21:07
Not sure I favour a LH take over .. seeing what they are doing with SN I would be very cautious indeed regarding such a scenario ...
I still think the AF/KL bid makes more sense.
Surprised and disappointed TK showed no interest ...
But there was no bid by AF/KL if I understood well!
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Alitalia near bankruptcy. Can it be saved?

Post by sn-remember » 16 Apr 2018, 22:16

Well you know the history .. They can't be idle I am sure ...

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Re: Alitalia near bankruptcy. Can it be saved?

Post by Ansett » 18 Apr 2018, 05:50

Following on about what I wrote about Brussels Airlines, if LH takes over AZ, Alitalia's domestic and European flights will be renamed Eurowings and pay and working conditions will be those of EW. LH could also wait for AZ to go bankrupt (like AB). It would make it easier to impose much lower pay and worse working conditions.
As to Alitalia's long-haul operations, they will all be rebranded Eurowings, too; As far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong), Alitalia has no "niche" operations like SN does.
Alitalia crew and ground staff still believe their airline will not undergo the same fate as Sabena. Wrong !
CS has five years to bring all this to fruition (including the SN deal) before leaving with a mega bonus.
(My cristal ball tells me it is tired and needs a nap).

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Re: Alitalia near bankruptcy. Can it be saved?

Post by brusselsairlinesfan » 18 Apr 2018, 12:20

Don’t underestimate italian people’s emotional reaction ;-)
In that case, I think that LH could prefer something like italianwings, just as belgianwings !

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Re: Alitalia near bankruptcy. Can it be saved?

Post by Ansett » 18 Apr 2018, 22:56

Italians have a love/hatred relationship with Alitalia, just like the Belgians with Sabena in the past. Actually, there are quiet a lot of similarities (imho). I don't think people are still so attached to their national airline. Otherwise, FR would not be so successful. Sorry for disagreeing with you. I like AZ and would hate it to see them ubergo the same fate as sabena (unlike anothet member on the forum ).

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Re: Alitalia near bankruptcy. Can it be saved?

Post by Stij » 23 Apr 2018, 15:44

And here we (finally) go...

The EU is investigating Alitalia's state loan...

https://www.ft.com/content/7f3b2486-46d ... e73aab7ccb

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Re: Alitalia near bankruptcy. Can it be saved?

Post by jan_olieslagers » 24 Apr 2018, 09:46

Qatar Airways have become a sponsor of the Roma football club - would they be preparing something :) ?

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Re: Alitalia near bankruptcy. Can it be saved?

Post by quixoticguide » 24 Apr 2018, 13:49

jan_olieslagers wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 09:46
Qatar Airways have become a sponsor of the Roma football club - would they be preparing something :) ?
They have already Air Italy
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Re: Alitalia near bankruptcy. Can it be saved?

Post by Passenger » 24 Apr 2018, 19:46

Stij wrote:
23 Apr 2018, 15:44
And here we (finally) go...
The EU is investigating Alitalia's state loan...
https://www.ft.com/content/7f3b2486-46d ... e73aab7ccb
EN:
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-18-3501_en.htm
FR:
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-18-3501_fr.htm

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Re: Alitalia near bankruptcy. Can it be saved?

Post by jan_olieslagers » 24 Apr 2018, 20:05

They have already Air Italy
The successor to Meridiana, the successor to Alisarda? Isn't that only a child's toy for the Qatari's?

And its only a 49% share, anyway, according to Wikipedia.

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Re: Alitalia near bankruptcy. Can it be saved?

Post by flightlover » 24 Apr 2018, 20:49

jan_olieslagers wrote:
24 Apr 2018, 20:05
They have already Air Italy
The successor to Meridiana, the successor to Alisarda? Isn't that only a child's toy for the Qatari's?

And its only a 49% share, anyway, according to Wikipedia.
49% is the max % a non EU company or citizen can have in a EU airline. Or to be correct, 50% - 1 share.

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