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FLYAIR10
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Re: Air Belgium: a rebirth?

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Just like spring 2017 turned into summer 2017 etc... And they still don't have the planes, they still haven't an AOC, they don't have slots, they don't have ... virtually the only thing they have is some people on their payroll for over a year now. Fortunately for them, there's currently unlimited cash in China so they seem to be fine on that front.
Didn't they have a campaign in Hong Kong to enroll Cabin crew members? How are these kept busy? being offered to some other compnaies on interim basis maybe?
Also for the administrative HQ staff it must be long days , and weeks, months, now...

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They also have a famous Belgian designer working on their uniforms!
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You can buy scale models of the airbus 340 Air Belgium at www.aviationmegastore.com, they look very beautiful.

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First batch of cabin crew finished conversion training.
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How are they going to do practical training when they have no plane to train?

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Yuqu12 wrote: 25 Jan 2018, 17:44 How are they going to do practical training when they have no plane to train?
You don’t need an airplane for practical training. A door trainer and mock up will do

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A BBQ food truck for the fire drill and a dip in lac de l'eau d'heure for the wet...

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As said by Sean1982, they need a door of a A330/A340 and a mock up. Both can be found in Charleroi at the WAN (Wallonie Aerotraining Network), for the fire training there are external companies having a cabin mockup on a truck, for the wet drill, the is in Meise a swimming pool with everything, lifejackets, raft etc... No need of an airplane for those trainings.

However to get their qualification, they will need to make training flight and this will be more complicated.

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crew1990 wrote: 26 Jan 2018, 11:38 As said by Sean1982, they need a door of a A330/A340 and a mock up. Both can be found in Charleroi at the WAN (Wallonie Aerotraining Network), for the fire training there are external companies having a cabin mockup on a truck, for the wet drill, the is in Meise a swimming pool with everything, lifejackets, raft etc... No need of an airplane for those trainings.

However to get their qualification, they will need to make training flight and this will be more complicated.
Depends actually :) if they were already in posession of an EASA certificate, then a fam flight is not needed when they have recent flying experience. To not let their qualification lapse though, They will need to operate on the plane within 3 months ... that might be a bit complicated ;)

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Call me crazy but what prevents Air Belgium to go to a company such as HiFly and say lease me an A340 so we can get the operation going... They could get HiFly to use some of their cabin crew too... but at least they would be in the air, selling tickets and bringing in revenue and making a name for themselves before everyone and their mother is flying between Belgium and China... I think it would beat continued announcements that flights are starting in 2-3 months...
HiFly could even take one of the A340s destined for Air Belgium and lease it and put it on the CS register until such time as Air Belgium has their AOC... this way the plane only needs to be painted once and you just have to put OO on it...
I also think that if Air Belgium can show 6 months of successful operation it might make getting that AOC easier... again feel free to call me crazy

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A very good idea JP, but there is probably a traffic right problem with your solution.
An ACMI agreement with SN should work though! At the same time this solution would prove there are no “politics” involved in the delayed AOC.

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An ACMI agreement with any operator would work I guess. If they really want to fly to China, why don't they use a Chinese airline to conclude an ACMI with?

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I will meet with Niky Terzakis next week at CRL and I'm sure he will give an answer to your questions.
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The suggestions made here can be told to him then, would be nice to see what he thinks about these possibilities ;)

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If he hadn't already done so, well before any of us...

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Talking about the slide mock-up, I visited a facility where they have a 777 and 330 where the simulator can tilt on the lateral or on the longitudinal axis or both ...changing the attitude to simulate nlg or mlg collapse or even stuck in the mud evacs...I never saw that kind of evac simulator before...top of technology!

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There should be a press conference this afternoon!!!
https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2018/01/31 ... -verwacht/

In Dutch, but no information that was unknown to the attentive readers of our forum!

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This morning Stij. Air Belgium: new dedicated terminal at the Executive terminal. First plane mid February. First flight to HKG in March. Stewardesses with uniform present.
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sn26567 wrote: 31 Jan 2018, 10:05 This morning Stij. Air Belgium: new dedicated terminal at the Executive terminal. First plane mid February. First flight to HKG in March. Stewardesses with uniform present.
I stand corrected!
Any news on their AOC?

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Re: Air Belgium: a rebirth?

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Stij wrote: 31 Jan 2018, 10:09
I stand corrected!
Any news on their AOC?

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If they make such announcement than they'll most likely have their AOC in hand, no startup airline would be so foolish to have a press conference to announce such things without an AOC in their pocket.

Unless it's to put pressure on the Belgian CAA but that would be a huge gamble that probably will backfire, Belgian governmental departments don't like to be publicly blackmailed or pressured.

So I reckon they have their AOC, not?

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