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OO-SFG (Airbus A330-343, MSN 983, ex SQ 9V-STB) is on the Belgian register since today (5/11/2018).
http://www.mobilit.fgov.be:7081/bcaa/ai ... search.jsf

She is already in SN-colours:
https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9095325

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Since Eurowings' OO-SCW is officially an SN aircraft, it flew from DUS to Malta this morning as SN9903 (C-check?).
I assume EW is paying the trip though. :)

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convair wrote: 05 Nov 2018, 15:24 Since Eurowings' OO-SCW is officially an SN aircraft, it flew from DUS to Malta this morning as SN9903 (C-check?).
I assume EW is paying the trip though. :)
Why would EW pay?
The M stands for maintenance in ACMI.
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Poiu wrote: 05 Nov 2018, 15:30
convair wrote: 05 Nov 2018, 15:24 Since Eurowings' OO-SCW is officially an SN aircraft, it flew from DUS to Malta this morning as SN9903 (C-check?).
I assume EW is paying the trip though. :)
Why would EW pay?
Maintenance is included in the ACMI agreement.
doesn't matter who pays, it's the same group ;-)
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Heard a couple of weeks ago that the new A330 cabin will be presented on 30NOV.

Anybody confirms?
Factual news have more weight than words to me.

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Homo Aeroportus wrote: 05 Nov 2018, 18:48 Heard a couple of weeks ago that the new A330 cabin will be presented on 30NOV.

Anybody confirms?
Factual news have more weight than words to me.

H.A.
there will be a official presentation of the new long haul cabin, the exact date I don't know but it'll be at the end of this month
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OO-SCX will operate on the 6th november SN501/SN502.
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CTBke wrote: 05 Nov 2018, 19:32
Homo Aeroportus wrote: 05 Nov 2018, 18:48 Heard a couple of weeks ago that the new A330 cabin will be presented on 30NOV.

Anybody confirms?
Factual news have more weight than words to me.

H.A.
there will be a official presentation of the new long haul cabin, the exact date I don't know but it'll be at the end of this month
And from when will it be operational?
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that will take a long time as it's not done overnight... might take up to 2 years to install the new cabin as it's a complete new design, not just new seats
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With all the movement/growth happening, could somebody post a brief overview of their long haul fleet?
Thanks.

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Inquirer wrote: 06 Nov 2018, 11:04 With all the movement/growth happening, could somebody post a brief overview of their long haul fleet?
Thanks.
Here you go:

https://sites.google.com/site/lhgroupfleet/brussels

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So 7 are leaving, and only 5 'new' planes (well, yeah...) are scheduled to fly from BRU
Will OO-SFB come back to BRU or not?
And will there be more investment, or will LH/EW keep reducing their 'Longhaul specialist'?
Seems there will be less flying to Africa and North America ahead too

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ezis_bis wrote: 06 Nov 2018, 12:59 So 7 are leaving, and only 5 'new' planes (well, yeah...) are scheduled to fly from BRU
Will OO-SFB come back to BRU or not?
And will there be more investment, or will LH/EW keep reducing their 'Longhaul specialist'?
Seems there will be less flying to Africa and North America ahead too
Careful, they have 14 'own' planes now according to the list posted (so excluding the ones flying for eurowings), so that seems to suggest they are currently over equipped with planes, probably due to a needed overlap? As such, it's normal that a snapshot on today's fleet status shows more leavers than remainers.
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For a few weeks already, SFE and SFG have been supposed to join the fleet as of October. Still waiting!
SN501 today operated with OO-SCX, an A340 with EW livery!
SFT and SFZ AOG at BRU;
SFY "parked" at LIS;
SFN supposedly leaving the fleet but back on the list, although no longer flying;
SFU due to operate SN371 today but already delayed 4 hours;
Total: 7 SN A330 (maybe) operating today out of a total of 11 theoretically available: a complete debacle!

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Inquirer wrote: 06 Nov 2018, 13:13 Careful, they have 14 'own' planes now according to the list posted (so excluding the ones flying for eurowings), so that seems to suggest they are currently over equipped with planes, probably due to a needed overlap? As such, it's normal that a snapshot on today's fleet status shows more leavers than remainers.
True, and I understand that
But, only looking at the SN fleet -as it stands- more retirements are planned than newcomers.
So, or they still plan to make it up (Retirements are planned into 2020, so there is ample time), or they don't and SN Longhaul will downsize

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Euh, I'm not sure you really understand what I'm trying to say.
Downsize from what? From the oversized state of today yes, but I'm under the impression they never ever needed more than 10 planes to fly their network with until very recently when they started to renew their fleet: depending on how you count, I now see between 11 and 14 'own' planes listed, excluding those for eurowings, so if they go back to that number at the end, I don't see it as a downsize like you do?
They will just have had a higher number of planes during the refleet program, which is normal, I should guess? How many planes will they operate on their own behalf when everything is renewed?

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convair wrote: 06 Nov 2018, 13:16 For a few weeks already, SFE and SFG have been supposed to join the fleet as of October. Still waiting!
SN501 today operated with OO-SCX, an A340 with EW livery!
SFT and SFZ AOG at BRU;
SFY "parked" at LIS;
SFN supposedly leaving the fleet but back on the list, although no longer flying;
SFU due to operate SN371 today but already delayed 4 hours;
Total: 7 SN A330 (maybe) operating today out of a total of 11 theoretically available: a complete debacle!
OO-SFN is leaving the company, that list isn't updated yet . It's being prepared at maintenance for the phase-out.
Why so surprised an EW plane is operating the JFK flight, SN did the same with OO-SFO at DUS but that isn't a big issue apparently.. better get used seeing Eurowings planes at Brussels since SN and EW are in the EW Group and not the greater Lufthansa group
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If I'm not mistaken, seven SN-dedicated planes are leaving the fleet, with five entering. So indeed a downsize with two planes for their own ops...

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ezis_bis wrote: 06 Nov 2018, 13:53 True, and I understand that
But, only looking at the SN fleet -as it stands- more retirements are planned than newcomers.
So, or they still plan to make it up (Retirements are planned into 2020, so there is ample time), or they don't and SN Longhaul will downsize
The number of 'new' aircraft is equal to the number of aircraft that will leave the fleet:
'new':
SFB (flying for EW at the moment)
SFC (in service since the summer)
SFD
SFE
SFF
SFG
SFH
+ 4 A330's for EW-service

leaving the fleet:
SFM
SFN
SFO
SFU
SFV
SFW
SFY


The only question is if OO-SFB will come back from EW-wetlease?

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Two A332 are remaining in the fleet:
OO-SFT : entry 19/03/2012 from LX.
OO-SFZ : entry 31/07/2017 from WK.

Source www.airfleets.net

Maybe there will be some ''new'' aircrafts orders from 2020?
C96C wrote: 06 Nov 2018, 15:21
The only question is if OO-SFB will come back from EW-wetlease?
Isn't OO-SFB supposed to come back for SN for next summer season?
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